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Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 12:27 AM GMT+4
Contributed by: cgrotke

Town NewsMore when SKB files his full report, but the vote was 3-2 in favor of an ordinance that bans nudity as they defined it.

Women must wear shirts downtown (and out Rt 9, and Rt 5, and the Common, and...) unless breastfeeding; men do not have to wear shirts.

 

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    Authored by: cgrotke on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 01:15 AM GMT+4
    Article V.

    Public Nudity Ordinance

    Authority

    This ordinance is enacted pursuant to the authority granted the town
    to promote the public health, safety, welfare, and convenience
    contained in 24 V.S.A. 2291, and Article IV, Sections 27-29 of the
    Charter of the Town of Brattleboro. This ordinance shall be a civil
    ordinance within the meaning of 24 V.S.A. Chapter 59.

    Purpose

    It is the purpose of this ordinance to promote public welfare and
    convenience by regulating public nudity, which is deemed to be a
    nuisance for commerce.

    Definitions

    "Nudity" shall mean the showing of the human male or female
    genitals, pubic area or buttocks with less than a full opaque covering,
    or the showing of the female breast with less than a full opaque
    covering of any portion of the areola. A woman breastfeeding her
    child, irrespective of whether the breast is covered, shall not be
    considered in a state of nudity.

    "Prohibited Public Location" shall mean any location likely to be
    observed by members of the public and where the public is present or
    likely to be present, including streets, sidewalks, parks, parking lots,
    and business and commercial establishments (both for profit and not-
    for-profit). "Prohibited Public Location" shall not include doctor's
    offices, hospitals, enclosed single sex public restrooms or functional
    showers, locker and/or dressing room facilities, nor shall it include
    those places in which nudity or exposure to nudity is necessarily and
    customarily expected outside of the home and the sphere of privacy
    constitutionally protected therein.

    "Geographical Location" shall mean: the Brattleboro Downtown
    District as defined in the Zoning Bylaws; The Brattleboro Common,
    being bounded by Route 30, Route 5/Putney Road and Park Place; the
    Route 5 Corridor from the Dummerston town line to the Guilford town
    line being within 200 feet of the center line of the highway; the Route
    9 Corridor from main Street west to the intersection with Sunset Lake
    Road, being within 200 feet of the center line of the highway; within
    250 feet of any school, church or place of worship; Living Memorial
    Park; and the Village of West Brattleboro as defined in the Zoning
    Bylaws.

    Public Nudity Prohibited

    Within a Geographic Location as defined above, no person shall
    knowingly or intentionally appear in a Prohibited Public Location in a
    state of Nudity.

    Civil Penalty

    An issuing municipal official is authorized to recover civil penalties in
    the following amounts for each violation:

    First offense: $100
    Second offense: $200
    Third offense: $300
    Fourth offense: $400
    Fifth offense and up: $500

    Waiver Fee
    An issuing municipal official is authorized to recover a waiver fee, in
    lieu of civil penalty, in the amounts, for any person who declines to
    contest a municipal complaint and pays the waiver fee:

    First offense: $50
    Second offense: $125
    Third offense: $200
    Fourth offense: $275
    Fifth offense and up: $350

    Other Relief

    In addition to the enforcement procedures available before the traffic
    and municipal ordinance bureau, the Town of Brattleboro is authorized
    to commence a civil action to obtain injunctive and other appropriate
    relief, or to pursue any other remedy authorized by law.
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    Authored by: ZAM on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 01:20 AM GMT+4
    Ridiculous.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
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    Authored by: BrattPack on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 01:45 AM GMT+4
    If you think this is a "ridiculous" ordinance please be aware that this is not in any way a final, close the book issue, THIS IS A TEMPORARY Ordinance. You need to follow the progress to a complete and final ordinance which will be done in stages. If you are opposed to this Ordinance you need to speak up at the various meetings particularly August 7th when it will be on the agenda and get it's second reading. You have to believe that your voice can make a difference so speak out for the sane and stop the insanity about nudity; it is your freedom we are talking about here. Be There Or Be Bare!
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    Authored by: ZAM on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 02:13 AM GMT+4
    So should I add "Temporarily" before ridiculous? Because my belief is still the same.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
    Clarification
    Authored by: Christian Avard on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 01:51 AM GMT+4

    The one they passed tonight, it's a temporary one, right?

    Don't they come back and vote on a permanent one next month?

    Just wanna make sure.
    Clarification
    Authored by: BrattPack on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 02:35 AM GMT+4
    THIS IS A TEMPORARY Ordinance. You need to follow the progress to a complete and final ordinance which will be done in stages. If you are opposed to this Ordinance you need to speak up at the various meetings particularly August 7th when it will be on the agenda and get it's second reading. You have to believe that your voice can make a difference so speak out for the sane and stop the insanity about nudity; it is your freedom we are talking about here. Be There Or Be Bare!
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    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 03:06 AM GMT+4
    Boy, are you guys in for some fun. (Not!)
    Now instead of the "liberal" town of Brattleboro, you'll get to become known as the "puritanical" or "uptight" town of Brattleboro.
    Dim-witted mass media types from all over the world will mischaracterize the town, the inhabitants, and the issues. They'll try to give "perspective" by casting this as a clash between the cross-eyed gap-toothed flannel shirt-wearing yokels with their rigid 19th-century morality, and the educated, effete, liberal urban escapees who have rescued the town from the peevish stupidity of the native dolts.
    Hysterical freaks - from both sides of the issue - will raise their shrill cry every chance they can.
    It will be a long, awful summer. Enjoy.

    -Maus

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    Nudity Illegal In Brattleboro
    Authored by: ZAM on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 12:57 PM GMT+4
    Aren't we always a puritanical town?

    I rarely see any liberal behaviour. Usually, it's complaints from the puritanical about how horrible our smelly little liberal town is, then one incident which fuels the whining for months, or even years.

    It seems like we're about 10% liberal.

    And I mean, you'd think the nudity was something huge and ongoing, since we're more concerned about that than Remilard's legacy, or crime, or money

    We are the fictional liberal machine that is used to fuel strawmen around the country. We are the record label that wants to keep your favorite teenage rebellious rock act down. We are the boogeyman, and facts be damned.

    I mean, even after this emergency ordinance, and after the passing of the real one (assuming it does), we will still be known as the nudity town. We'll be used as an example of how bad liberals are, because nudity is worse than crime, worse than drugs, worse than wars without end....

    But really, are we even a liberal town? Because I'm frequently sickened by the dog and pony show of people complaining about our liberalism without any actual liberalism to show for it.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
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    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 01:38 PM GMT+4
    An hysterically crying 10 year old girl...hmmm. I seem to remember something similar in Salem, Mass., a while back. They shaped some laws around the hysteria of young girls, too.

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    The Third Horseman:
    Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action Program.
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    Authored by: richardtete on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 10:44 AM GMT+4
    It seems that a significant number of supporters of the ordinance were from Vernon. This is almost enough to make me support the closing of VT Yankee. These people must have had too much radiation to their brains. Also, do they have an anti-nudity law in Vernon? If not, why not?
    As to the ten year old who cried when she saw the 68 yr. old naked man, the sight of a 68 yr. old naked man is enough to make anyone cry. I know, because I cry every morning when I look at my naked body in the mirror.
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    Authored by: cgrotke on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 12:34 PM GMT+4
    The mom said it was the same reaction (hysterical sobbing) when
    speaking to the Selectboard as with the nude man.

    Ban the Selectboard... for the children!

    ....

    The problem seems to be with out of town nudists. Why not just
    allow it for people who can produce evidence of local residency. Out of
    towners could register (reduce taxes!), or be banned.

    Dick's Law (sort of like an Amber Alert) says it's purpose is related to
    preserving commerce. PT Barnum taught us that there is no such thing
    as bad publicity as long as they spell the name right. The Selectboard
    just eliminated free mentions of "Brattleboro Vermont" in hundreds if
    not thousands of news outlets around the country and world.

    Rather than find a way to frame the discussion and benefit from it,
    Dick's Law shuts all the free publicity down.


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    Authored by: richardtete on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 12:43 PM GMT+4
    I hesitate to contemplate where we Brattleburgers will have to stash our IDs
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    Authored by: Jane Doe on Wednesday, July 18 2007 @ 12:58 PM GMT+4

    Yeah, that dramatic bit with the 10 year old was a bit strange. someone told me last night they thought it looked a bit rehearsed.

    Who knows where some people get certain ideas, but I have seen how some kids are basically told to fear anyone they don't know and grow up thinking that 90% of everyone they encounter is a potential threat when the reality is that one in 10,000 is probably closer to the fact.

    If someone encountered someone screaming and waving their arms at people I think we could easily empathize with someone on the receiving end of confrontational behavior. A guy walking down the street is hardly a threat.

    As Dora noted, much of these feelings come from cultural and religious teachings and fear of "the other" often comes with those teachings.

    .....................
    I just caught the MSNBC coverage of this story. Fish was talking on the phone and I saw Barb and Audrey from last night's meeting as well as street shots that include Gary.
    ......................
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    Authored by: mr.mike on Thursday, July 19 2007 @ 07:31 PM GMT+4
    As far as I know there is no ordinance against nudity in Vernon.Probably because there is no need for one.
    And maybe those that are not living in Brattleboro are seeing things from a different perspective than those in the midst. I'm not so sure they should be criticized. Should a passerby not tell a man his house is on fire?

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    "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
    -- George Bernard Shaw
    Your house is on fire....
    Authored by: ZAM on Thursday, July 19 2007 @ 07:39 PM GMT+4
    This is less "Your house is on fire" and more "Your shutters are painted the wrong colour."

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
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    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, July 19 2007 @ 11:41 PM GMT+4
    Great! We'll send all the nekkid outatowners down to Vernon! Thanks for the tip, Mike!

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    The Third Horseman:
    Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action Program.
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    Authored by: ZAM on Thursday, July 19 2007 @ 11:53 PM GMT+4
    Wait until they get a load of my moobs.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
    Nudity Illegal In Brattleboro
    Authored by: mr.mike on Friday, July 20 2007 @ 01:24 PM GMT+4
    How about "Fair Trade". Vernon can take your "waste" and they can send the casks to Brattleboro. Maybe Elliott St perhaps?

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    "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
    -- George Bernard Shaw
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    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Friday, July 20 2007 @ 02:05 PM GMT+4
    It is a fair trade. Vernon gave the world their "nudity taliban" - zealots like Peggy Frost, who want to export their religious clothing ideals to everyone else, and Brattleboro can give them all the naked idiots.
    I'd say that's "fair and balanced" trade.

    -Maus

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    Shear the Sheeple!
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    Authored by: mr.mike on Saturday, July 21 2007 @ 12:49 AM GMT+4
    Oh but what about Hinsdale? Would they not feel left out? After all it was the Anti-Walmart zealots who went there to influence their decision on a new Walmart. I'm sure they rarely visit or drive through that community.Yet they want to influence a decision outside of their state let alone their town.
    As with most of the anti-nukes who don't even live in the immediate area.




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    "Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it."
    -- George Bernard Shaw
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    Authored by: ZAM on Saturday, July 21 2007 @ 12:52 AM GMT+4
    One day I will meet the person you have no complaints about, Mike. It will be quite a day.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
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    Authored by: annikee on Saturday, July 21 2007 @ 08:56 PM GMT+4
    Ya mean that Vernon people coming up here and bellyaching and calling our SB at home and bringing their crying daughter to a SB mtg and having a fit is like Bratt folks going to bellyache to Hinsdale? I agree, Mike. Vernon in particular needs to mind their own town's business. There's plenty of scandal right there.

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    The Third Horseman:
    Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action Program.
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    Authored by: ZAM on Friday, July 20 2007 @ 02:43 PM GMT+4
    That would be a lateral move, I'd say.

    Actually, nuclear waste might improve Elliot ST.

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    Power to the Sheeple!
    The Fourth Horseman: Sent by Hell's Affirmative Action program.
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    Authored by: swami on Thursday, July 19 2007 @ 07:38 PM GMT+4
    "You can make some of the people wear some of there clothes some of
    the time but you cant make all of the people wear all of there clothes all
    of the time" Me,I sleep in the nude,is that still legal?
    NUDITY OK AT BMH!
    Authored by: symtmaticsimian on Saturday, July 21 2007 @ 02:13 AM GMT+4
    The ordinance specifically exempts hospitals. Me and my friends are planning to show up at the Brattleboro Memorial Health Fair on September 9th
    http://www.bmhvt.org/events/healthfair_2007.shtml to display healthy living in action. Everyone is welcome to join us!