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    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"    
    Monday, March 24 2008 @ 12:11 PM EDT
    Contributed by: barbaralew

    OpinionMy son, who has an autism spectrum disorder, spend much of his first several months of prison life locked away in solitary confinement - referred to by inmates as “the hole”.

    He’d tell you, as he told me while going through the experience, that some of the inmates in these “units” throw or smear feces, urinate on the floor, and make life miserable not only for themselves, but for everyone around them. He was once placed in one “hole” that still had human waste on the walls, the door, and the floor.

    My son spent many periods of up to 45 days at one time in such an environment. Now, he didn’t smear feces or urinate on the cell floor, but he certainly saw what was going on around him in these units.

    I’ve concluded, after listening to my son describe his last year and a half in prison, that the reason for this is NOT that these inmates enjoy this sort of activity, rather, they are left sitting in a solitary cell for 23 out of 24 hours each and every day, for days, weeks and even months on end, and are mentally ill, living this terrible existence without treatment, being given medications that are either sadly outdated, inappropriate, or not made available to them at all. Whether they are even yet diagnosed, there they sit. Others can and do become “stir crazy“ after weeks on end in the “hole“, a term coined back in the days of early England, when the jails were referred to as “stirs”.

    They are powerless to submit their grievances, punished often times if they do, and living in this environment, where every right has been stripped away from them, it’s sometimes the one way and the only way left to express their anger, hurt, betrayal or outright misery, whether that misery is of their own making or arriving from underlying illness, diagnosed or not.

    Rather than feeding these inmates “nutriloaf” why aren’t we treating their illness, hearing their grievances, giving them more modern and appropriate medications? Has anyone asked why this behavior exists and why it seems to be ever-present?

    Nutriloaf is just another way for the DOC to portray themselves as thoughtfully addressing some of the problems that exist in their facilities ~ but yet again they are simply disguising one of a range of highly inappropriate punishment of the mentally ill.

    Although they can tell you (and we have to take their word) that these inmates, after a time, change their bad behavior, so did the patients who used to be locked in cells at our very own Retreat! That does happen sometimes of it’s own accord, and many mental health professionals should be able to speak to why that happens. How many of them will tell you it’s in the Nutriloaf!

    Here some of us sit with cabin fever after a long winter, able to move about, shop, relax, watch tv, read, or listen to the radio - imagine sitting in a cold cement cell for an entire winter, a cell already perhaps covered in feces and urine when you first arrive - and tell me that your mind wouldn’t break at some point. Some of these inmates have no other way to ask for the help they desperately need. It’s not a simple matter, when sent to prison, to ask for help; it takes filling out forms, praying that a CO delivers them, - and even if someone was listening, there just isn’t any meaningful treatment to be given.

    There’s is a better way than the “nutriloaf” treatment; it’s called “mental health” treatment! It’s all about the cost of carrots, the availability of carrots and all the other ingredients they’re using; the new one size fits all “cure” for mental illness .

    I say Nuts to nutriloaf!

     

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    Nuts for "Nutriloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 02:23 PM EDT
    EXCUSE ME! I spelled "Nutriloaf" without checking how the DOC is spelling it; Instead, I spelled it as if it was "Nutritious", as they report it to be, rather than "nutratious" -
    so, it's NUTS to NUTRALOAF!!


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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    That's not all...
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 10:56 PM EDT
    Not everyone in Vermont's prisons are mentally ill - that's true. However, it's clear to me that the numbers are greater than we can all perhaps imagine.

    My son was originally ignored - I had not been told that they would need my son's mental health records in order to treat him; so, a lot of unnecessary time passed before they took us seriously. (DOC does not embrace family involvement) Most inmates don't arrive at the prison with their medical records; and despite my son telling the med staff that he had these diagnoses - no one asked for his records. Luckily, his last clinician was able to get someone into the facility to treat him, although it's barely legitimate since some of the meds they use are not only outdated, but downright dangerous. For instance, they'll give an inmate a psychiatric drug just to help them sleep;(the lights are always ON)

    How will we ever get an accurate picture of the number of inmates who need help if we are going to rely only on DOC staff? In this community, my son was handed a bucket full of diagnoses, most of them incorrect - but none-the-less, if one walks into an psychotherapists office in this town, they can be assured of being diagnosed with something in order to feel they got what they paid for.

    The DOC is supposed to assess all new inmates; but, it's the opposite of what goes on in the private offices. Then, there are cases such as Bustillios, who in fact had a serious medical condition, but was accused of trying to fake a mental illness - the staff saw the signs, but ignored them regardless of it being medical or mental. We lose, either way.

    I don't know exactly how many people are even being fed this nutraloaf - I heard at one time Vermont had only one inmate on that diet. But, I don't care what it is, if I had to eat one food 3 times a day, it wouldn't take long before that one food would turn my stomach.

    The recent news told us all that we have 1 in 100 sitting in a jail cell; let's work with that number for just a minute; In my case, we have 6 close family members affected by his tragedy; a couple of attorney's (we all pay for them, too) and then, we have DOC staff, people who work with organizations like the CJC, half way houses, and so on - let's put that number at 1 in 10 affected for every 1 in 100 who is in prison in Vermont. That's bad news.

    Yes, it's time to do more than just worry - things have got to change - the expense is ultimately 10 times more enormous than the costs of running the prisons! And, we are ALL paying in the end.

    To be fair, I have to say that the facility my son is now in, one of the busiest in the state, has been much less problematic for us. He is in fact in what they call a "special needs" unit - still a lot to be desired. He never has an opportunity to go out; he wakes up, sits all day in a plastic chair, day in and day out. But, he's not had any major problems or setbacks since last November, when even SSCF tried to give what they could for considerations of his underlying disorders. He'd love it if they could turn off the lighting, or change it somehow - he can acutely "hear" the lights; and there are ceilings full of them - they can't help him with that.



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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: spoon on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 04:24 PM EDT
    I can't quite recall the origin of this old truism...maybe Dostoyevsky...but it tells us that if one wants to know a society one should look at its prisons. A society is defined by looking at it from the bottom up.

    Thanks for publicizing this information, Barbara. It's painful to read. It boils the blood. It's frightening and discouraging as it reveals so much about our state and about ourselves as we consider our reactions.

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    spoon agave
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: Wendy M. Levy on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 04:48 PM EDT
    Hi Barbara,

    I second Spoon's comment in thanking you for posting this, and letting people know what's going on in our prisons. the ones WE pay for.

    While I am not diametrically opposed to prisons, I do believe there are MANY people in them who are in need of something other than incarceration and nothing else. Unfortunately, due to the pathetic state of treatment for the mentally ill and addicted, far too many people are experiencing what your son has experienced. And worse.

    It's shameful and heartbreaking.

    Today's Reformer article on Nutraloaf was really weird, as many Reformer articles are. it seemed (poorly) edited down from an article appearing elsewhere, so it seemed like some big non-sequitur. SOP for the Reformer... Anyway, it made me wonder what the heck it really was all about, and your post helped to clear it up. Thank you.

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    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 05:05 PM EDT
    Thank you both for offering support to what is an uncomfortable story to tell; both in knowing these prison conditions exist, and in my having to be descriptive of the activity in question.
    I heard someone on the radio today, who said this kind of activity is "widespread". I'm not saying that isn't the case, but let's be clear; it is not happening in the general population; it seems to be confined to the unit's the house the solitary confinement cells (the hole). When these guys get their one hour out; it is one at a time. If they're lucky enough, they can call someone during that hour, and shower - or just walk around for a while.
    No matter how it's prepared, raisins and carrots and whole wheat can't treat what ails them.
    It's horrific. I think they've come up with more than enough ways to dehumanize people - to the core of their very being.
    They've done it to my son in countless ways.

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: gfv on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 04:51 PM EDT
    I worked up at SSCF for a time - as a nurse.

    Ms. Lew I do not mean to be rude but you do not know the subject you are speaking about.

    Your son is either waiting sentencing or has been found guilty by a judge or jury ... for whatever reason.

    Prison - SSCF or any of the others and I have worked at a few, only put individuals in the hole - for not complying with the rigid structure that is inherent in the institutional form known as prison.

    Once in the hole - nutraloaf is not the food ... only if you screw up in the hole, do not do what is asked of you, do not heed the orders of the guards, etc... and or smear feces, urine or some other such behavior do you then warrant receiving nutraloaf.

    That the conditions of the hole were disgusting in the cell where you son was placed does not surprise me. Would you not imagine that having feces smeared walls would discourage further non- compliant behavior. If there is feces smeared on the walls in a sheraton it is one thing but in prison ... did you expect flowers and a welcome kit?

    And from what I saw, many inmates learned how to work the system. This was done in many ways including smearing feces. You are absolutely wrong to assume that medical care and psychological care was/is not available to the inmates. The medical staff is there for the inmates. We were often the only face of compassion they saw. I remember seeing men smear feces or do rude urinating behaviors as a way to get attention even if the psych or social workers had just been in to visit them.

    I apologize if anything I have written here is found to be offensive. That is not my intention. I am not intending to speak up in behalf of the inmates or the often less-than-compassionate guards.
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 05:19 PM EDT
    Oh, medical staffer - did you work at the prison when Justin Bustillios died of a brain anurysm at SSCF? Were you there for the month he served his time, suffering headaches and not even knowing how to ask for help? Were you there when he tried to follow his sister out the door, not even aware at that moment that he was in prison to begin with? Were you aware that for his confusion, that likely arose from bleeding on his brain, he was put in the hole, where my son watched and heard him scream for help as he died? Were you there as this inmate was shackeled as he lay dead on a gurney, waiting for a ride to the hospital, and later where he lay shackeled and cuffed to a hopistal bed, on life support, where his family went to say good-by?
    The rules are broken and they are rigid; but just raising one's voice can bring about a stint in the hole - if you're going to represent yourself as prison staff - tell it like it is; and if you don't know, ask
    As far as my son, he has autism; his "crime" was in following orders from another person who merely used him as a fall guy; it worked. We didn't have his diagnosis at the time and in the end - he took a plea agreement because the alternative was to risk even more time behind bars if we lost a trial. His lawyer didn't think we could win - as he put it "who's going to believe anyone would be THAT stupid".
    I stand by my reports of the abuse that occurs on a daily basis at SSCF - and will until the day I die. As for you're belief that people in any way deserve to be treated like this, or that somehow, it's justified under your personal rules of punishment, then you're either very ignorant, a sociopath or both.
    Perhaps you were one of the staff that walked past Bustillios when he screamed for help, only to tell anyone who'd listen that he was just faking illness as a way to get out of his cell -
    Yes, you did offend me, and I can't accept any apology.
    This kind of treatment corrects nothing. Perhaps we could throw you into one of those cells and not tell you when we might let you out?
    There would be a host of health risk to going into the hole, especially if covered with excrement and urine; so guess who I will sue if my son contracts hepatitis or some other illness, because he spoke too loudly or couldn't stop ruminating in worry about being in prison -guess who?
    I'm far from finished with the DOC and staffers like you -


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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MaryRothschild on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 05:21 PM EDT
    Please, let's try to be sensitive. Having seen other postings from Barbara about her son, I feel compelled to say that, like so many things, the situation of prisoners defies one-size-fits-all statements.

    The question I hear under the painful details in Barbara's post is one of deep frustration with a system that does not diagnose and treat the mentally ill in a humane and timely manner.

    As a community, what resources are there for those who are imprisoned and act in ways that illicit punishment, when what they need is medical care? What support is there for their loved ones?

    Does anyone know?
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: Wendy M. Levy on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 05:26 PM EDT
    Oh no, not again.

    gfv said:
    "If there is feces smeared on the walls in a sheraton it is one thing but in prison ... did you expect flowers and a welcome kit?"

    Why is it, any time someone complains about the inhumane treatment of the incarcerated, someone else mocks the complaints by saying such things as "Well, it isn't a hotel" and "Well, what do you expect, it's a prison."

    We are all aware of what a prison is and what it isn't. Same with a hotel.

    Nobody in this post or its comments is asking for flowers and a welcome wagon for prisoners.

    But forcing a prisoner to reside in a cell that has the waste of another prisoner in it is not only horribly inhumane, but a major health risk, as well. Hepatitis, TB, HIV, AIDS, etc...

    No matter the crime committed, it is not the prison system's job to subject a human being, no matter how "evil," to another human being's waste.

    I am appalled anyone would defend that practice.

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    Tune in to 107.7 fm WVEW every Thursday from 6-8pm to hear The Most Boring Radio Program Ever
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 05:55 PM EDT
    They also will put an inmate in the hole for what they term "protective custody" - and a wide range of discretion is used in that - for one example, when my son suffered two black eyes by a beating given him by three other inmates who had ganged up on him, he was put in this "protective custody" ...the HOLE.
    I'm left slackjawed on nearly a week to week basis as to what goes on inside those neat, outwardly quiet walls at SSCF - people should know exactly what goes on; these are all men (and women) who will return to our communities - and I'm always asking myself, just who will they be returning to me? I lost my son into a system of hell and indifference and will not stop until I have him back. We have two years to go; I mostly pray that we will still be alive. It wasn't supposed to happen this way; he was given a community sentence but because of his complicating diangosis, he could not jump through the hoops they put up for him while he was out. But, now that he's in, I not only hear several times a day from him, but I also have letters from other inmates; it's undeniable abuse.

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    On "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: Lawbound on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 06:10 PM EDT
    As a former inmate #25828. I have seen most behaviors and actions
    of both staff and inmates alike. Granted, there are some inmates that
    are unruly due to their lack of manners. But, there are a few DOC
    staff members that could use improvement in their professionalism.
    The point I wanted to make is this: Christmas time is a difficult time
    emotionally for me. I had a son that passed away a couple of days
    after Xmas. While I was being "wear-housed" at the Springfield
    prison, I had submitted an emergency medical request slip to see
    someone from the mental health department because of the
    depression I was dealing with. All I wanted was someone to talk to.
    To share the emotional pain/hurt in verbal communication. Anyone
    could have worked as the "therapist" I wished to talk to. Well anyone
    besides the other inmates. "Weak emotional" inmates are prayed
    upon for ridiculing. Misery loves company. The request is to be replied
    to within 24 hours. Four years later, I still haven't heard back from
    that request. There are major improvements needed within our
    Vermont prisons.
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 06:36 PM EDT
    Day two Williams street bridge I 91 016

    This isn’t a picture of a Vermont I 91 interstate pier. It is an actual picture of Vermont conscience. That is representative of Vermont’s true state of integrity.



    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 07:11 PM EDT
    Click on the picture...it's even worst than you think!
    Inmates running the asylum?
    Authored by: mr.mike on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 09:44 PM EDT
    First of all, Let's leave the mentally ill out of the picture for a minute. I don't believe everyone in corrections is mentally ill.
    I wouldn't consider Nutraloaf punishment. Witholding food yes. But because they don't get a meal they don't like that's punishment? Let's not forget prison is not supposed to be an enjoyable experience.

    For violent or habitual offenders I think they should they should recieve 2-3 hrs of classroom whether it be schooling or therapy. and another 8-9 hrs of labor that pays back society for their crime.

    Incidently the DOC has given inmates a chance at working. A few years ago they were allowed out to work at the WSWMD facility. How did they show their appreciation for being out on a work program?
    Investigators had to look at a several fires that just started happening at the facility. Inmates back in jail. fires stoppped. Is this what they mean by punishment?
    Not everyone can be rehabilitated

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    "Taxes are the fees for belonging to the State of Vermont"......as was said by a Vermont Legislator
    Inmates running the asylum?
    Authored by: mr.mike on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 09:53 PM EDT
    I may have come across the wrong way. My last post was meant for those that need prison.

    I do sympathize with barbaralew's situation. I think there needs to be some sort of evaluation done to make sure that those that may need treatment can get it. And can be seperated from prison if the situation allows.

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    "Taxes are the fees for belonging to the State of Vermont"......as was said by a Vermont Legislator
    Finger pointers
    Authored by: Todd on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 10:09 PM EDT
    Of course, since America locks up a higher percentage of its own citizens now than any other nation on the planet. And its growing and *accelerating* -- perhaps we better ALL worry about what we are going to eat!

    But, hey - thats the price we pay to live in the Land of the Free right? Or . . . uh . . . .
    Inmates running the asylum?
    Authored by: barbaralew on Monday, March 24 2008 @ 11:05 PM EDT
    Prison is not supposed to be enjoyable, and it isn't. Spend a day or two denying yourself any freedom at all; ask for anything you might need a week ahead of time; do what you're told, when you're told. loss of freedom IS punishment -

    I am surprised at all the additional layers of punishment that follow, and that's what the nutraloaf is - and 'the hole - and other things; punishment upon punishment.

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: Homey on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 01:07 AM EDT
    No one seems to be quite getting the point here.
    This is horrible.
    This is torture.
    No human being (or animal, for that matter) should be treated with
    such sadistic cruelty, such insanity-making pain, under any
    circumstances whatsoever.
    Whoever participates in such an act of torture is committing a criminal
    act, and should be prosecuted and sent to prison (though not tortured)
    for so doing.
    It is beyond sad to hear what is being done to Barbara's son, not
    just in neocon USA, but right here in the "progressive" state of
    Vermont.
    As Anthony Pollina says, we will not be getting it right in Vermont
    until we start spending less on prisons and more on higher education
    and job opportunities for the next generation.

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    homey
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 08:46 AM EDT
    Exactly right on the mark, Homey - it's criminal.
    I am constantly amazed at folks who shrug their shoulders and say "well, they're being punished" -
    I have a question for those people.

    If my husband and I took my son, and to punish him for yelling out, we were to put him in a room in our home that was covered in excrement, and if we fed him a diet of what we considered a "nutritious" bread, day in and day out for weeks or months on end - and if we let him out of that room (if we felt like it) for a hour or so a day to shower (only to go back into the filthy room) and if we on top of it, barraged him with insult after insult and withheld treatment from him - would we not be charged with a crime for delivering this "punishment?

    I dare say we'd make headlines across the country.

    What gives the state of Vermont any "right" to treat any person this way?

    Too many people just shrug their shoulders and don't give even a few minutes to really THINK -

    The fact that my son has Asperger's is sometimes a blessing. He lives "in the moment" and sometimes I thank God for that; otherwise, he'd likely be another suicide victim of this system of "systematic abuse" we call "corrections".

    There's a post from a former employee here who says it all - in one breath, she claims that the med staff showed the only compassion the inmates see - and in the same breath, she gives us a nice taste of indifference - these are the people the DOC will hire to carry out the layers upon layers of punishment - they are the only ones who can dish it out and have no regrets.

    Just because we can from time to time find a real person working in this system (and there are a few good staff) does not negate this abuse.

    Nutraloaf is just one tiny layer, here. A person can eat an array of food without utensils - it's designed and disguised and then presented in a way to fool us into believing there's some grand reason for feeding an inmate this way; another in an array of abuse sanctioned by the state. What fools we are if we find it anything BUT another layer of punishment!


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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 09:26 AM EDT
    Amen, Homey.

    I have a hard time with some of these posts- a "nurse" who exhibits everything but compassion, and another who doesn't believe anyone in corrections is mentally ill.

    It seems obvious to me that there is no "correction" going on, only punishment. In that light, let's lose the PR tag of "correction" and call it what it is- the Department of Punishment.

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    "Kindness and love being the core of human interaction rather than power and material gain is at the heart of everything worth struggling for"-SK-B
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: Homey on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 03:35 PM EDT
    Bingo, Annikee. We might even more accurately call it the Department
    of Punishment and Torture (DPT), or the Department of
    Punishment, Sadism, and Torture.
    Oh we think we're so enlightened in Vermont. Spend a day in the "hole"
    in Springfield Corrections, then tell me about how "progressive"
    Vermont is. (Or talk to any Abenaki about the level of
    tolerance and respect for the indigenous people of this state.)
    We have a ways to go.

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    homey
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 03:49 PM EDT
    Yes, and I especially cringe when people say "well, we GAVE them a job, and LOOK at what they did!"

    I don't know, but something tells me that a job ought to come with a dose of reality, at least a living wage. I, for one, am not prepared (nor will I ever be) to make a career out of picking apples or working at the dump!

    However, part of the grand plan is that someone has to do it - and far too many people feel that a lousy job is good enough for these guys (and gals). Then, they'll blame them for failing.

    The punishment lasts a life time. People with drug charges cannot get subsidized housing, educational grants - and are locked OUT of many professions that would give them a living wage. There are only a few exceptions to the whole in defeating this - we praise those people and we should; but what about the hundreds upon hundreds of others?

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 04:22 PM EDT
    Well, the job thing is a whole different deal. My first full-time job after graduating college was scraping a dairy barn, haying and running a blueberry field.

    As for a living wage, haven't seen that since the early Clinton years.

    The lousy job market, what I laughingly look back at after 30+ years in the work force as "careers", has always been the problem. There has been no healthy middle class since the disastrous dissemblage of unions and manufacturing jobs. It's all a carrot on a stick, a bill of goods, whether you went to jail or not.

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    "Kindness and love being the core of human interaction rather than power and material gain is at the heart of everything worth struggling for"-SK-B
    Anthony needs to read the CAFR
    Authored by: mr.mike on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 09:06 PM EDT
    "As Anthony Pollina says, we will not be getting it right in Vermont
    until we start spending less on prisons and more on higher education
    and job opportunities for the next generation."

    Take a look at Vermont's CAFR. Especially pg 26.

    http://finance.state.vt.us/Fin%20Publications/2007_cafr.pdf

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    "Taxes are the fees for belonging to the State of Vermont"......as was said by a Vermont Legislator

    mr.mike needs to move
    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 09:29 AM EDT
    Mr.Mike, as said before, there are many who will HELP you move. Sell your house and move back to your utopian NH. End of all your troubles, right there. Then you won't have to complain and grouse and make yourself sick.

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    "Kindness and love being the core of human interaction rather than power and material gain is at the heart of everything worth struggling for"-SK-B
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: cgrotke on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 07:13 PM EDT
    An article in the Rutland Herald, via the AP:

    Vermont Inmates Say Nutraloaf is Punishment. They are asking for formal disciplinary process for anyone automatically being fed Nutraloaf.

    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 08:48 PM EDT
    Ever been there where you have information that is going to change the course of future-history. You have the availability of information...when you portray it, a lot of people are going to be mad at you...but on the big picture, you end up doing so much good. There is a part where you wonder....the uncertainty....do you see it like everyone else sees it. It is a such a thrill to test your take on a situation. It unbelievable when you get onto the other side of the problem...where you got the proof....where you can say I seen that first. I had the courage to do what nobody else had the courage to do...and I had the honor of changing the course of history.

    Police officers, nuclear power plant employees, health care workers, mental hospital and institution employees, wal-mart unloaders...they are employees under the gun. They provide a kind of work that few people get to appreciate. It’s very difficult work. The difficulty makes you form yourselves into extremely cohesive groups. They call it the blue wall of silence in the police corps...but the professional people, the lawyer, judges, engineers, doctors, school teachers, school principles, middle managers...politicians....the professional "blue wall of silence" makes the police wall look like child’s play. I mean, the professional people turn their higher education and skills against us. Most of them are good...but the bad ones really cause us a lot of troubles.

    Anyways, a dysfunctional correctional system serves nobody’s purpose. It really doesn’t serve the correctional officers needs of safety and employment opportunities.

    I love my work with our area bridges...it’s like taking candy from babies. It is really no challenge. The issue is transparency, oh man, transparency is so powerful...if you ever held it in your hands and used it against a competitor...it’s so powerful. It creates such deep and fundamental changes. You don’t need guns and violence for revolutions...armies, jets aircraft carriers and nuclear bombs...you just need the creative ability to project information...the ability to communicate across a room to reach a human heart...picture, words, movies and the internet...ideas expressed...violence and uncontrolled anger is so primitive. Anyways you get my point.

    I mean; why have these correction’s officers and employees been developed with so little courage? Why have the manager’s chosen such defenseless Vermont cows?

    Again, it’s going to take guts...you are going to have to climb that wall of uncertainty, you might face disciplinary issues, you might get away with it if you catch them in a political fire storm....but the game is creating transparency and figuring out a communication means. This is so pathetically easy with the internet...it was so hard before the internet. You always had to go through the gate keepers of the newspapers and media in the bad old days.

    All you need is a few cells phone movies...pictures...voice recordings...yep, you are going to have to do a higher good by violating someone else’s rights. There is just no way to get around that. There is some drama in that and attention getting...but that’s on higher skill level of a whistleblower. Don’t you kid yourself...you have the power to change the course of Correction agency's future history...make it better for everyone...challenge and inform the public with how the politicians spend tax monies. You bet, the public might be mad at you...but you did the right thing.

    You will drive your bosses absolutely nuts...they will go head hunting. Does the Vermont’s correctional department have any real heroes? Does anyone know right from wrong?

    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Tuesday, March 25 2008 @ 10:15 PM EDT
    Well, I don’ have much hope with Vermont until the public hires...and values....a politicians who will go deep into the system...dig out the seemly unseen problems and exposed them...no matter how painful and difficult it is.

    We should pay a politician to cause us pain...not to make us feel better than we really are!




    Response to Ms Lew"
    Authored by: gfv on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 12:44 AM EDT
    Ms Lew.

    I do not know you.
    I did not work at SSCF at that time.
    Your harsh recount of what occurred with that man who was in a medical emergency and later died is nothing short of horrible.
    The treatment your son has received is horrible.
    That the guards do not take the time to suggest that inmates clean out the cells - as that is the dynamic that exists in that system- is deplorable.
    It wasn't just in the cells where the hole was disgusting... by every doorway I found it gross as well albeit the filth was not necessarily body waste.
    Ma'am- Your son and his condition of autism there is extremely sad... yes people do fall through the cracks there.
    People with medical conditions or psychological conditions- some overwork the system , and some get left behind. I am afraid from what you write that your son and his condition has been neglected... but i am a lowly paid nurse... I do not diagnose. I have never worked for the prison or for the psych care at the prison... I worked at the prison. I do not have enough data to know if in fact your son experienced neglect there.

    That you choose to not accept my apology if I did hurt you... that is your choice. I prefer to think a misunderstanding occurred.

    I identify with your pain, and I do not know if I understand how great that pain is for you as I am not a parent.

    I have compassion for your pain. ( or maybe i can't say anything right)

    Response to Ms Lew"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 09:57 AM EDT
    gfv; There’s an old saying “you’re either very brave, or very stupid” either way, you deserve my personal response to your post - since you addressed it to me: so, here it is!

    “I do not know you.”
    - Very lucky for you, I‘d say!

    “I did not work at SSCF at that time“.
    - Utterly Irrelevant!

    “Your harsh recount of what occurred with that man who was in a medical emergency and later died is nothing short of horrible“.
    - And Criminally neglectful, indifferent, callous, cruel….

    “The treatment your son has received is horrible.”
    - An understatement, but -Bingo!

    “That the guards do not take the time to suggest that inmates clean out the cells - as that is the dynamic that exists in that system- is deplorable.”

    - You have GOT to be KIDDING!!! - LET SOMEONE TRY TO SUGGEST TO MY SON THAT HE CLEAN UP A CELL SUCH AS THE ONE HE WAS IN ! The very IDEA - Madam, is part of the criminality of what goes on there!

    “It wasn't just in the cells where the hole was disgusting... by every doorway I found it gross as well albeit the filth was not necessarily body waste.”

    - Then you, in my opinion, have a moral obligation to tell about these conditions until you are satisfied you are being heard!

    “Ma'am- Your son and his condition of autism there is extremely sad... yes people do fall through the cracks there.”
    - Crack? WHAT CRACK! - it’s a CHASM ! It is not just my son who is suffering -

    “People with medical conditions or psychological conditions- some overwork the system , and some get left behind. I am afraid from what you write that your son and his condition has been neglected…”
    - rather than telling that “some” overwork this “system” - give "some" examples to show your claim. Go back and read LAWBOUND’s post, please; then tell me why he never got a reply to his valid need!

    “but i am a lowly paid nurse…”
    - I hear you - we get what we pay for, don’t we?

    “I do not diagnose. I have never worked for the prison or for the psych care at the prison... I worked at the prison.”
    - I am completely confused by this statement. My son is not in the “psych” care unit; but he’s been held there - it’s another “hole” , a special one in name only, where no treatment is given, but it's named for the sake of appearances. I don’t work there, yet I know this - and you’re telling me you worked there and have NO Idea?

    I do not have enough data to know if in fact your son experienced neglect there.”
    - Madam, consider my writing all the “data” you should need! What do they do when they hire help - put new staff through some kind of mind eraser and “sociopath R us” reprogramming, or, have you always been this way?

    “That you choose to not accept my apology if I did hurt you... that is your choice. I prefer to think a misunderstanding occurred.”
    - If it’s easier on your conscience - be my guest; but I don’t believe we’ve had a misunderstanding at all.

    “I identify with your pain, and I do not know if I understand how great that pain is for you as I am not a parent.”
    - Tell me about this - in what way do you identify? Take heart; if you no longer work for the DOC the effects of your denial may eventually wear off, in which case, I hope there’s a good psych hospital able to help you once that happens..

    “I have compassion for your pain.”
    - Pain does not accurately describe what I feel for EVERY person who is shoved into the bowels of hell called the VERMONT DOC. I have a whole lot more ANGER than pain. I have a list of adjectives a mile long and no one word can describe what I feel, think and believe about this system!

    “( or maybe i can't say anything right)”
    - By ‘right’, do you mean the glossy and absurd language of the DOC ? - they’ve found a number of other ways to disguise the question; “what did you expect, flowers?”



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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Response to Ms Lew"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 12:03 PM EDT
    gfv,

    What’s SSCF?

    Do you work at the jail now...or when did you work there.

    Why can’t you fix the systems?

    I would call a nurse....this job has a lot of transparency...she probably is exposed to a lot of people and she has access to most of the property. She has probably seen some amazing things in there.

    Is it me...gfv sounds very pained?

    Thanks,

    mike



    acronym
    Authored by: Belfast on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 12:45 PM EDT
    SSCF=Southern State Correctional Facility (in Springfield, Vt.).

    My comment is left to my signature (below)...

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    "You cannot administer a wicked law impartially-it destroys everyone it touches, its violators as well as its upholders."
    acronym
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 02:59 PM EDT
    Hmm, that's a city with major bridge structural problems?
    acronym
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 03:30 PM EDT
    "It wasn't just in the cells where the hole was disgusting... by every doorway I found it gross as well albeit the filth was not necessarily body waste."

    Now you got the access and entrance information. You are going to need a list of places and events to help them create an investigation. Some times the results of investigations end up being hidden because of privacy concerns.

    With feces and filth of the hole...these unsanitary conditions are a ‘human rights violation”. You could get the UN involved. I am not kidding China likes hammering us for our sins. Here is a stupid question...does the department of correction re-use syringes?

    How about a tour of the hole for members of the community and news people.

    Barbara, I love to visit your son’s jail...can you get a tour of his living quarters and the hole with me. I’ll bet you we could get some political help with setting this up?

    Thanks,

    mike
    There's only ONE way to visit the HOLE
    Authored by: barbaralew on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 06:30 PM EDT
    Mmulligan; I think at times, some of our state reps have been allowed in to see the prisons; I doubt they'd be allowed in any of the HOLES - and, if they were, I'm sure the staff would get things cleaned up a bit first...
    My son told me when investigators went in over the death of inmate Bustillios, another inmate (also mentally ill) started parroting the words he last heard from Bustillios.... "help me; help me.... I'm dying....."
    My son never received the mental health counseling that the DOC is supposed to make available to inmates and staff alike after such an event - another example of abuse within the system; what good is it at this late date to ask for even that much; and they KNOW this...

    So, they'd have themselves a grand laugh if I asked to go visit the HOLE, or anywhere inside the prison. Others in government can visit; but I'm sure they'd require advance warning!!!

    The facility phone number is on the web site, however, if you'd like to give it a try! If you can get in, I'd be happy to go with you.....


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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 12:09 PM EDT
    gfv,

    Remember, Barbaralew is a mother who has been hurt very profoundly. I hope you understand.

    What’s going on in that jail?

    Thanks,

    mike






    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 12:52 PM EDT
    gfv,

    The truth is we need jails...there are a lot of dangerous people out there. There is a lot of people who damaged innocent people, and will continue to damage innocent people...they need to go to jail for that. That being said...!

    Think about working in horrid jail situation. You are not there because you love that kind of work...it must beat you down...you are there trying to make a income for your family and buy toys for your kids. Let me tell you something, the pay isn’t great...I’ll bet you it’s very low pay...not for what you see.

    Anyone can walk in jail for a for a day or two...but imagine, if you as a worker, had to tolerate this kind of human suffering over a very long time. Think about what kind of defense mechanism you would have to develop...a natural and healthy rationalization. I am not kidding I seen this close up...you would have to come up with a rationalizing that these people disserve what they are getting. It’s a defense mechanism...it’s how you survive. What I’d seen in jails...most of the inmates are extremely manipulative, extremely self centered and immature....and the small confines of a typical jail makes these instincts all worst. It’s is a very difficult population of people to work with...they will drag you underwater if you let them. I mean you have to build up a defense mechanism...a wall...a survival insensitivity....you have to learn to cope with extraordinary circumstances.

    If you ask me...gfv...her first message on this posting. It’s not pretty...but she was trying to describe her defensive rationalization with how she is coping with working in a very difficult situation. I bet you she is trying to describe something of a nightmare. Most people don’t even have the vocabulary and life experiences where they could understand what she/he is talking about. She knows she will get in trouble if she does talk. She is going contrary to a cohesive group of people who has learned to cope in very troubling circumstances. These people are providing a very valuable public service for us under very troubling times.

    Do you understand what I am getting at..it’s not pretty and it make us all uncomfortable...but it’s a normal and healthy coping mechanism.




    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: barbaralew on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 02:25 PM EDT
    I'm eager to hear what the high court decides on the nutraloaf issue; seems to me that lots of foods can be served on a paper plate without utensils. A though came to me about - well - no way to put it other than bluntly - the nature of a bowel movement after eating a meal of nutraloaf; is it that there's nothing to put into a spoon to later throw against the wall? if so, that's even worse; since from the description of the cell my son was in, he could at least do his best to avoid contact with what had been left behind; but I cannot imagine what they cell would look like after a few weeks of this nutraloaf IF the intention is not simply to provide a food that needs no utensils.
    I'm trying to read between the lines of this "treatment" being "effective" .... A question for a nutritionist. Whole wheat, (or unporcessed bran?), rasins, lots of bulk it seems...

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    keeck they ayuss
    Authored by: hfreedman on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 02:34 PM EDT

    Dear Ms. Barbaralew, I am very sorry to hear about these horrors, abuses, criminal violations, and state-sponsored fillintheblank. It sounds like you're pissed enough to keep fighting hard, though, which is a great thing.

    There IS a way for offenders (and members of the public) to file grievances without retaliation. It's by not dealing with DOC, but with another segment of state government. (Please do not forget that you can always share your grievances with the New York Times. Or simply, with the kickass mini-investigative journal, the Caledonia (VT) Record. Or any other media outlet.) Cgrotke shows us, with surprising serendipity, that just yesterday the AP covered the Nutraloaf class-action suit. These are inmates, getting into the Vermont Supreme Court. Heartening proof that remedies without retaliation do exist.

    In 2004, the Vermont Agency of Human Services (AHS), which has jurisdiction over DOC, was compelled by "sunshine" to create a toll-free number for stakeholders of Vermont human services: created for those who would be "whistleblowers" - while giving them full legal protection - even if they are incarcerated.

    The AHS Internal Affairs Investigations Unit (more on this below), whose number is 1-877-360-2597, was created as a result of what is known as the Marks-McLaughlin Report.

    AHS commissioned the Marks-McLaughlin Report due to seven deaths in Vermont prisons between November 2002 and October 2003.

    Two attorneys, Michael Marks of Montpelier and Philip McLaughlin of Laconia, NH (as well as Phil Stanley, a former state commissioner of NH DOC, and Walter Newcomb, a former commissioner of Belknap County, NH DOC), were retained by VT AHS to produce the independent investigation, published in March of 2004.

    The report can be found here. "Investigative Report into the Deaths of Seven Vermont Inmates and Related Issues"
    http://www.doc.state.vt.us/about/reports/marks-mclaughlin/view


    And the New York Times writeup:
    "Report Faults Prison System In 7 Deaths In Vermont"
    March 17, 2004
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9501E3DC1431F934A25750C0A9629C8B63


    In October 2005, DOC produced a report to the Vermont Legislature’s Joint Correction Oversight Committee: "Implementation of the Plan of Response to the Investigative Report."
    http://www.doc.state.vt.us/about/reports/plan-of-response


    (Just for ha-ha’s, here all DOC reports available online): http://www.doc.state.vt.us/about/reports


    The Internal Affairs Investigations Unit is designed to provide oversight of policies, procedures, and EMPLOYEES of AHS departments. Therefore the jurisdiction includes all stakeholders of the following state service providers: Department for Children and Families (DCF), Department of Corrections (DOC), Department of Disabilities, Aging, and Independent Living (DAIL), Department of Health (VDH), Department of Mental Health (DMH), and Department of Vermont Health Access (OVHA).
    http://humanservices.vermont.gov/departments

    So 1-877-360-2597 is to be used by anyone who has a problem with any kind of bureaucratic nightmare, patent abuse, or lack of responsiveness when working with any of the above AHS service providers. You may also request that copies of the investigation you prompt be provided to the Office of the Attorney General, as well as to the Governor, should you desire. Internal Affairs is an investigation unit ONLY, and holds no disciplinary jurisdiction over the departments they audit. "Who" processes their findings is unique on a case-by-case basis, and you are completely welcome, as I've indicated, to weigh in on who reviews your investigation. This includes, but of course is not limited to, the media - - should you opt for non-anonymity.


    Here is the text from the webpage of AHS' Internal Affairs Investigations Unit (IAIU).
    " The AHS Internal Affairs Investigations Unit is a result of Legislative action to enhance accountability and transparency within the Agency of Human Services. The Unit is responsible for all labor related investigations within the Agency of Human Services, most particularly those within the Department of Corrections. Such investigations include, but are not limited to: alleged misconduct, policy violations, work rule violations, bargaining agreement violations, inmate grievances, and inmate on inmate incidents. The unit works closely with all Departments within the Agency of Human Services and maintains an established toll-free telephone number to allow the general public and those under the custody of the Department of Corrections to file complaints. This number is 1-877-360-2597 available Monday through Friday 7:30am - 4:00pm. “
    http://humanservices.vermont.gov/departments/office-of-the-secretary/internal-affairs-investigations-unit


    The Chief of Internal Affairs, Pete Canales (pronounced, ka'NAL'iss), is an excellent human being, a helluva guy, and an outstanding professional. He is by no means wedded to any loyalty other than PREVENTION. His job, his mission, and his accomplishments indicate nothing other than the desire to not allow people to "slip through the chasm," on the low end, of irritatingly inefficient bureaucracy.... and on the high end, to prevent the crises of mismanagement, systemic policies, and individual renegade staff. The latter set brought about the deaths of the seven inmates which prompted the Marks-McLaughlin Report, and very unfortunately I am sure, the deaths of other inmates and perhaps stakeholders of Vermont mental health, disability, and elder care, as well. I would think that preventing injuries and protecting quality of life issues factor very highly in Pete's office's work, as well. I encourage vigorous use of, as well as widespread distribution of, Internal Affairs' number. (That's 1-877-360-2597!). But please keep in mind that this pertains to issues regarding health and human services only - - IAIU is not vested to accept public grievances about government in any other area.



    Ms. Barbaralew, I hope you are interested in testifying to the Vermont Joint Corrections Oversight Committee. It is chaired by Senator Dick Sears of Bennington, one of the coolest and wisest legislators around. He's at 442-9139, rsears@leg.state.vt.us. Another member of the committee I would suggest speaking to is Senator Ed Flanagan of Burlington - - he was once the State Auditor, and has NO problem critically examining FUBAR systems in Vermont. He's at 862-3203, eflanagan@leg.state.vt.us. Other than Dick, the geographically closest member of this committee to you is Sen. John Campbell of Windsor County, who is one of the sweetest men on the planet. 295-6238, jcampbell@leg.state.vt.us.

    VERMONT JOINT CORRECTIONS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE http://www.leg.state.vt.us/legdir/comms.cfm?Body=J

    Legislative Contacts Directory http://www.leg.state.vt.us/legdir/legdir2.htm

    I've not worked with this committee, but I'm sure they'd welcome opinions and input. Especially from Windham County, I'd hope, since the Vermont '06 crime data published last fall. Despite Brattleboro having the state's seventh highest population, the Vermont Crime Information Center reported that it has the third highest crime rate. http://www.dps.state.vt.us/cjs/crime_06/press.htm

    "Prison Nation"
    New York Times
    March 10, 2008
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/opinion/10mon1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin


    Good, bad, or indifferent (and it's got to be all of the above), Vermont DOC, and we the citizens, potential victims, potential incarcerants, and inevitable funders... need to get up to speed on this issue. Windham County Representative Daryl Pillsbury serves on the House Corrections and Institutions Committee (up until this year, it was just called "the House Institutions Committee").

    These are the corrections bills currently moving through the Vermont Legislature, House and Senate. From the link below, you can click on a bill number, and then scroll All The Way Down to the bottom of each bill's page, for a link to the language itself.


    H.0135 INCREASING THE AGE FOR MANDATORY PARTICIPATION IN THE CORRECTIONS SYSTEM EDUCATION PROGRAM
    H.0257 THE CODIFICATION OF EXISTING COMMUNITY JUSTICE CENTERS
    H.0302 FISCAL YEAR 2007 BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS
    H.0386 A TEN-YEAR PLAN TO DECREASE BOTH CRIME AND THE INCARCERATED POPULATION
    H.0410 AFFORDABLE TELEPHONE SERVICE FOR INCARCERATED PARENTS
    H.0441 VOTER REGISTRATION FOR PRISONERS
    H.0560 ELIMINATION OF THE OFFENDER WORK PROGRAMS BOARD
    H.0629 AN EVALUATION OF VERMONT'S SYSTEM OF CARING FOR MENTALLY ILL OFFENDERS
    H.0712 SEPARATION OF A VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT AND THE PERPETRATOR AT THE WOODSIDE JUVENILE REHABILITATION CENTER
    H.0715 DISCRIMINATION IN PUBLIC ACCOMMODATIONS
    H.0734 CHILDREN OF ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED PARENTS
    H.0735 A BILL OF RIGHTS FOR CHILDREN OF ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED PARENTS
    H.0736 CHILDREN OF INCARCERATED PARENTS
    H.0859 INCREASING SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, VOCATIONAL TRAINING, AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR OFFENDERS IN ORDER TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM, INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND REDUCE CORRECTIONS COSTS

    S.0203 A TEN-YEAR PLAN TO DECREASE BOTH CRIME AND THE INCARCERATED POPULATION
    S.0253 PROTECTIONS FOR CHILDREN OF ARRESTED AND INCARCERATED PARENTS
    S.0346 AN EVALUATION OF VERMONT'S SYSTEM OF CARING FOR MENTALLY ILL OFFENDERS
    S.0360 INCREASING SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT, VOCATIONAL
    TRAINING, AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR OFFENDERS IN ORDER TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM, INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY, AND REDUCE CORRECTIONS COSTS

    http://www.leg.state.vt.us/database/search/results.cfm

    Clearly, a HELL of a lot of long-neglected work.

    I hope you do contact Pete Canales at Internal Affairs, and Senator Sears of Joint Corrections Oversight, Ms. Barbaralew. They, and the state’s major media outlets, I am sure, will help you, your son, and perhaps most importantly, ensure that these things never happen to anyone else in this state again.

    Last but not least... Here's a link to the Prison Policy Initiative. They're out of Northampton, but serve the U.S. They're only a two-person outfit, but the New York Times has written nine editorials in support of their world. Here's their Legal Resources for Prisoners page.
    http://www.prisonpolicy.org/resources/legal/VT/

    ...and the Prisoner's Rights Office, who is representing the inmates in the Nutraloaf case. They are actually a branch of the Vermont Defender General's Office. http://www.defgen.state.vt.us/index.php?page=prisoners-rights-office

    very best wishes.
    keeck they ayuss
    Authored by: barbaralew on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 04:02 PM EDT
    What a wonderfully organized collection of information; I thank you for making this effort and in fact, I've found a couple of things I haven't yet explored. Most of it media related.

    I've covered most everything else; see, there just isn't anything in law that says the DOC has to do anything differently than they've been doing for ages. The state has shut every door I've tried to open; the agencies really are all one entity.

    If they help me and subsequently do the right thing for my son, they will have to do the same thing for hundreds of others. That's what they're afraid of.

    I've attended some of the hearings in Montpelier; a few things were put into slow-motion last year -

    One hearing I attended was also attended by many of the department heads of the various agencies. It was in response to the good Sen. Sears, who wanted to close the door on disability issues within the DOC by having the DOC declared exempt - what I heard was disturbing in that there was an "informal" plan to sift and sort and shift complaints round robin and work out solutions informally, taking into account first and foremost, any complaint that could result in a lawsuit that had more than enough merit to win, and then, working backward from there. To have shut the door the way that Sen. Sears was proposing at the time, would have simply given people a better launch into a lawsuit.

    The entire thing came out of a woman who won a law suit that forced the DOC to reconsider the way they were treating her son; much the same as my own son's case. Lawsuits are generally what it takes to get results from the DOC; and this is purposeful. Not many people make it into a court room with the DOC - and when they do, it is years or at least months after the damage has been done.

    They are incredibly organized this way! In fact, I would have to say that they ONLY reason they've relented to me in even the slightest way, is that I could have the case heard on some level and win.

    Peter Canales pretty much mocked me when I had a number of converstaions with him about my son and his situation. In fact, he met with my son, called me up and smugly told me he couldn't "see" anything wrong with him... he also told me he used to work for the DOC. I guess his opinion was "official" since nothing came out of my complaints of the failed community sentence being based in purposeful acts by the field staff to draw out the predictable reactions from my son that they routinely put into play.

    I don't mean to sound flip, but I have to tell you that I measure things by results. So far, I don't have much to tell you along the results line - I did manage to convince the DOC to consider that my son's diagnosis of autism spectrum was something they ought to consider. They agreed but that was well over a year ago.

    My one result in a whole year is that, a couple of weeks ago, they allowed my son to have what amounts to his TENTH assessment; and that assessment is in agreement. But, see, that took a year. There is no earthly reason for having that much time pass..

    At this pace, they might actually read the summary of his testing, say, next year?

    At this pace, my son will have served his entire sentence; one that I'm sure even the judge felt would have been served in the community and not in a prison; no one gets seven years for their first offense unless the offense is based in violence or serious bodily injury; and even then, lots of people get probationary terms.

    It's a game. It's politics. It's a sociopathic need to "win" - it makes no sense.

    I am pffiffed! And, I'm going to be involved long after my son is back with me in finding and exposing this crud covered, wasteful, expensive cog that chokes us all to death, and just like hundreds of people before me, I'll probably make no meaningful difference at all!

    Read the annals; even if they get rid of the nutraloaf punishment, something will quickly take its place; and then, another class action suit, and another and another; it's been endless.

    There is no fix to this system; It must be completely destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up. That ultimately means more than just DOC directives and rules; it's schools, police departments, courts, judges, attorney's and even clinicians who misdiagnose, milk the cash cow, and move onto their next victim without a second thought as to the number of lives they destroy on a daily basis!

    If we have to find a place to start, all I'm saying is let's start with my son. Oh, and take your pick; I have TWO who are being eaten alive by the DOC. I'm fighting my best for the weakest; but it's been no less a nightmare for his brother, who comes home from "prison for profit" in May - suffering multiple deformities from being left untreated MEDICALLY, and having never been treated for his mental illness, either!

    I am not ashamed of my sons. They have first been victims themselves; and not many have suffered greater consequences. I'm very proud of them both; they are my sons; they are survivors.


    The terrible reality here is that there is nothing anyone will do to bring an end to all of this needless waste of time, money, recources, and of life itself.
    No one is going to win any ribbons for helping a prisoner - a criminal - right?

    But, this is mental illness, drug addiction and developmental disorder when it's left undiagnosed, misdiagnosed, untreated and then blamed on the individual. It's sick.





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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    keeck they ayuss
    Authored by: barbaralew on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 04:47 PM EDT
    Oh, and never make the mistake of believing that an inmate (or their family) has any protection against retalliation - my son was "dry celled" after speaking about what he saw in the Bustillios death.
    Inmates are disposable; never forget that.

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    If there is no wind, ROW!
    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 04:23 PM EDT
    Remember, if you clean up the hole and cells...you have to take pictures of it and document the pre clean-up conditions of the facility. They will call it a cover-up if anything less is done!


    My buddies tell what’s good about degraded the state bridges...remember the 8th worst in the nation...it is a valid metaphor of much bigger problems than the AOT.

    They tell me the judicial and justice systems, the state and local police, the human service systems...they are all mis-budgeted and look like the Williams street and exit 1 I 91 bridge. Their foundations, piers and stanchions, their safety guard rails....the concrete of the state’s people infrastructure is all cracked and fallen off, the re-bar bones of their skeletons and rib cages are showing, and the cement is washed away and only the holey aggregate is holding up the bridge of state.

    The conditions of our roads and bridges...is a metaphor for something much bigger going on. The degradation of the Williams street Bridge is just a physical manifestation of the bureaucratic and political “cultural” attributes of the state of Vermont. What is Vermont‘s governmental culture....and this is a problem with most of the progressives, democrats and republicans.

    What does Vermont stand for....and the Vermont people are responsible for this.

    In our institutional failures...like BP’s Texas City oil refinery fatalities, NASA Columbia and Challenger, our bureaucratic failure in 9/11...there is a similarities in all of these accidents. It’s amazing how ubiquitous the dysfunctional human organizational behavior is....it’s not very creative and it’s repeated over and over again. They are carbon copies of each other. Vermont is not going to have mass casualties...but they got the same kind of behaviors as all our institutional collapses.

    I don’t know, maybe this state and municipal bond crisis might end up being Vermont’s NASA challenger or Columbia?


    Nuts for "Nutraloaf!"
    Authored by: MMulligan on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 08:13 PM EDT
    There would be no reason for allowing me to visit...and I am a out of stater.....I wish i could get a visit into the site.

    Reformer got it right.
    Authored by: SirCoßn on Wednesday, March 26 2008 @ 09:26 PM EDT
    After observing this post for a couple days. My observation is that what turned into a story about a son who was misdiagnosed and is now incarcerated. Has turned into another progressive rant that makes it seem as though there should be no prisons at all.

    The reformer stated that Nutraloaf has a taste like zuchini bread. If the serving of this is torture beyond punishment. Then what are inmates used to getting steak and eggs? Food that some of us in the free world can't afford?

    The example they gave was a good one. Christopher Williams, you know, the violent offender that murdered 2 people in Essex, was given Nutraloaf after ASSAULTING, not threateni