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    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC    
    Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 03:46 AM GMT+4
    Contributed by: Homey

    OpinionI hate to admit it, but Sarah Palin handled herself very well tonight and gave a good speech. She was tough and confident, went right on the attack, but above all-- to my surprise-- seemed inwardly calm, to all appearances. In her display of basic inner confidence, she actually reminded me of Barack. I did not expect this.

    On the other hand, her speech was short on policy substance, other than the two usual Republican points of cutting taxes and achieving "victory" in Iraq. She had just about nothing to say about abortion, gays, health care, the environment, or any other national policy issue.

    She surprised me, and I assume most people at the convention, by speaking positively of Harry Truman, who after all was a Democrat, and also by bringing up that her husband Todd was a proud member of the Steelworkers Union. So she was not only confident, and not defensive (indeed rather offensive in attacking Barack for being all speech and no action, and by saying we will need more than a "community organizer" in the White House, and that-- surely this was the most "intellectual" moment in her speech-- the White House is not a place to "discover yourself," but she was also not afraid to be a "Republican maverick" (as she repeatedly described John McCain) in speaking positively of unions and of Harry Truman, whom she identified as representing (like herself) "small town American values."

    It was not a great speech but a solid and confident one; given my (and I presume many other people's) expectation that she would struggle, perhaps it seemed "good" by contrast to the low expectations I had.

    Certainly she was not challenged by any questions, as she will be in debates and before reporters, but given that she had the total control that one has in giving a speech before a friendly audience, she was quite good at doing so.

    I felt she definitely vindicated McCain's Choice, which had looked like a huge blunder up until she gave this speech.

     

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    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 01:36 PM GMT+4
    Nicely said Homer, and I agree with all you said, except for one thing. She didn't remind me of Obama, she reminded me of why I think the Obama team is not the right team for America at this critical point in time.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 01:38 PM GMT+4
    Opps! I only read your first paragraph. I don't agree with anything after that.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: chrishh on Sunday, September 07 2008 @ 10:42 AM GMT+4
    Bingo. That's the exact reason McCain chose her. She highlights, no, puts a spotlight Obama's incompetence at the TOP of the ticket. Thus Biden to prop him up.

    Without Hillary to give him the answers in the debates - Obama will very likely screw this up royally. He's not smart. Time to figure this out. He's all BOYS CLUB DC. Nothing "different". He depends on them and owes them everything. They didn't want Hillary because she's her own woman and wouldn't be taking their orders.

    Wake up America. Way before 3am !

    The super thugs and White Haired Troll Senators - FAR FROM next generation politics - are pulling all of Obamas strings - for him!

    He hasn't got a clue and he needs them in an unhealthy, unDemocratic way. Stole, cheated and lied. Illegitimate hand pick. Booo hiss.



    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Sunday, September 07 2008 @ 11:28 AM GMT+4
    I think somebody needs a cup of warm milk, a cookie and a nice long nap.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Sunday, September 07 2008 @ 02:07 PM GMT+4
    And some friends, and a hug.

    ---
    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Sunday, September 07 2008 @ 03:52 PM GMT+4
    I was thinking detox, actually.

    ---
    Psyche!
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 01:41 PM GMT+4
    She is trained as a broadcaster, and has always looked very poised before an audience. Her speech was choppy, sneering and sarcastic - not to mention full of falsehoods. It made me physically ill. Perhaps my perception was tinted (tainted?) by Giuliani's bizarrely stark-raving-mad speech just before hers.

    The reason the choice is bad has nothing to do with her speaking skills. She is a right-wing extremist who has used her line-item veto to cut things like school-bus repairs, has advocated against sex education and for teaching creationism, does not believe humans have any part in climate change, is running on an anti-lobbyist ticket despite having crowed about her pork acquisitions in Alaska, and wants to open the wilderness to drilling while her state is literally MELTING.

    Worst of all, from my point of view, she appears to have abused her power to take revenge on a lawful person (not the first person she has fired for perceived disloyalty) - and in response to the investigation, she has said over and over that she has nothing to hide while at the same time invoking executive privilege in order to hide this alleged "nothing." The despicableness of that action goes beyond partisan politics and ideology. It sounds waaaaaay too familiar to me. No, thank you.

    ---
    Paula
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 01:53 PM GMT+4
    "I felt she definitely vindicated McCain's Choice, which had looked like a
    huge blunder up until she gave this speech."

    McCain's Choice is still a huge blunder, this is not a vindication at all
    unless the one requirement for being VP is the ability to read a speech
    that was written FOR, not by, you with great delivery while looking really
    good.

    And yes, it sure would have been nice if the speech had more substance
    but I think they did write a pefect speech for her, reflective of her
    personality on many levels. Aggressively attacking others while
    misrepresenting her record and devoid of any actual ideas.

    Let's not forget that the town of Wasilla had to hire a town manager
    because she was so inept at being a mayor of a small town populated by
    5,000 people. And her highly touted popularity of 80% had already
    dropped to 65% before the selection. If she hadn't gotten this gift from
    McCain she might have faced going to back to Wasilla after her term was
    up.

    Not let's see how she looks two months from now...that is if they let the
    press interview her at all...and they can surpress her record which will be
    hard to do considering the internets and all.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: cgrotke on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 02:11 PM GMT+4
    She and Obama said almost the same things about energy - invest in
    renewables, but focus on "clean coal" and nukes.

    The Republicans went a bit further, though, going into a frenzy when
    she promised pipelines and drilling all over America. Signs went up
    encouraging her to "Drill!" While her fans cheered, I think this will fall
    very flat with the rest of the country. The mood is not for more oil,
    and especially not drilling in our national parks.

    The party faithful greeted her like a Hollywood celebrity. They seemed
    to enjoy the large changing screens as part of her stage set. TV
    viewers got a fair number of shots showing that she was reading from
    teleprompters - I could see what she was going to say before she said
    a few times. (The Democrats had them, too, but they weren't visible
    and distracting).

    The person she reminded me most of, honestly, was Sally Field.

    Anyone know who wrote her speech?

    ...

    Observation: Both the GOP and the Dems cheer wildly when speakers
    talk about a new era, crossing party lines, going beyond politics as
    usual, getting along, stopping partisanship, and other "can't we just
    get along" rhetoric. Will it happen?
    Brimstone Belches and Burps of Bile
    Authored by: spinoza on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 08:02 PM GMT+4
    Here's a link to the speechwriter...

    And here's how it began:


    Someone said the speech reminded them of Erin Brockavich, funny, that's what I thought. But my exact thought was: Erin Brockavich on Crystal Meth, channeling Jerry Falwell. Between Palin and Guliani- the Shrieknote Speaker- it seemed like an orgy of fear and hate was unleashed. That may play fine in the pit, but hardly a vision to unify and inspire compassion. And for a grace and diplomatic presence on the World Stage...Not even close.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 02:24 PM GMT+4
    I thought this question to voters about B. Hussein Obama was particularly illuminating and I suspect accurate.

    "Listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform -- not even in the (Illinois) state senate ... What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet?"
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 02:57 PM GMT+4
    Heh Alan
    That's really clever, B. Hussein Obama...very clever.

    But here again, you inadvertently point out a problem with Palin's
    speech....it was full of misinformation and out and out lies in some places.

    For the record from what I can find Obama has currently authored/
    sponsored 152 bills while in the Senate. i guess you could argue that some
    aren't "major" but they probably make a lot of difference in the lives of
    those he serves.

    If you want to talk "major" bills my personal favorite is the Lugar-Obama
    Bill to Keep Weapons Out of Terrorists' Hands Which Passed Congress

    FYI I am including a list of the bills Obama authored and sponsored both in
    the State Senate and Congress. It's rather lengthy but let's see what he
    has done while in office.

    Barack Obama sponsored the following laws while in the State Senate
    PA 90-612: McCormick Place Expansion Project Fund

    This fund appears to have been created prior to this public act, this public
    act amended the existing statute. The amendment added two more years
    of increasing deposits (through 2007) and added a specified cutoff date for
    the fund (to pay for bonds) up until 2029 if they are still outstanding.
    Other changes were made as well throughout this long section.

    PA 90-0142: Veterans Affairs Act Amendment of Powers and Duties:

    This amendment added a section to "Encourage programs to address issues
    faced by Persian Gulf War Veterans" and it created a commission to study
    Gulf War diseases.

    PA 90-0017: Public Aid Rules

    This amendment changed the rules for who is ineligible for Illinois Public
    Aid by adding a person violating a condition of probation or parole to the
    list. It also added that people who have tried to get public aid from two
    states by misrepresenting their residency status is ineligible. People
    convicted of drug crimes don't get cash assistance but can get food
    stamps. There are numerous other changes please read them if interested.

    PA 90-0551: Illinois Pension Salary Calculation Rules for Cops

    This amended the way salary was calculated for police officers.

    PA 90-0289: Use Tax Amendment

    This added nonreusable tangible personal property used by restuarants as
    take out boxes etc, could be taxed as a sale at retail.

    PA 90-0290: Public Aid Amendment

    Added a breast pump and other devices associated with breast feeding as
    items that could be obtained via public aid.

    PA 90-737: Gift Ban Amendment

    Increased the amount a gift could be valued at from $1000 or $3000
    depending on the circumstances to $3000. It also required that anything of
    value be reported, and the reported value must be made by the
    contributor's certified market value. It also added sections requiring
    disclosures on political literature and made the requirements for accepting
    donations tougher.

    PA 90-0249: Public Aid Amendment

    This required sending public aid recipients to rehab rather than cutting the
    benefits "where clinically appropriate substance abuse treatment capacity
    is available."

    PA 90-0341: Alzheimer's Special Care Disclosure Act amendmnet:

    Provided a permit could be revoked for failing to provide an accurate
    disclosure statement and does not allow renewals until the same has been
    provided.

    PA 90-0472: Probate Act Amendment

    Removed all gender biased sections of the statute and made some other
    changes.

    PA 90-0474: Job Training and Economic Development

    Added a section for a grant program for organizations trying to help poor
    people get jobs.

    PA 90-0141: Criminal Procedure

    Added a motion for convicted defendants to get DNA or fingerprint analysis
    done to try to prove their innocence.

    PA 90-0129: Youth Crime Prevention Consortium Act

    Created this consortium.

    PA 90-0651: Criminal Law additions and amendments

    Changed and added sections to existing crimes and added at least one
    crime.

    PA 90-0740: Code of Corrections Amendment

    Added Reckless Homicide to crimes that require a judge to read certain
    passages at the time of sentencing about how long the person will spend in
    jail. There are also other changes associated with reckless homicide.

    There are many others from the 90th General Assembly but I will move on
    to the 92nd General Assembly because the data I was able to find on the
    91st General Assembly is too disorganized to effectively do the same.

    PA 92-0087: Notice of employer responsibilities under federal Worker
    Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act

    Added section about an advisory notice required to be sent to employers.

    PA 92-0156: Emergency Contraception Law

    Provides that emergency contraception shall be provided by hospitals that
    provide services to sexual assault survivors and requires rules to be
    developed by each hospital to conform with the law.

    PA 92-0058: Drug Court Treatment Act

    I am not sure if this was a new law or an amendment but it is a program
    for drug crime convicts providing for an alternative to prison.

    PA 92-0088: Medical Care

    Added grants for new community health centers.

    THE BILLS SPONSORED BY OBAMA WHILE IN THE SENATE FOLLOW

    Bills sponsored by Barack Obama since January 5, 2005

    09 S. 1180 SAVE Reauthorization Act of 2005 IS [5]
    109 S. 1194 Spent Nuclear Fuel Tracking and Accountability Act
    IS
    109 S. 1426 Drinking Water Security Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 1630 National Emergency Family Locator Act IS [6][7]
    109 S. 1638 Hurricane Katrina Emergency Health Workforce Act of
    2005 IS [8][7][9]
    109 S. 1685 To ensure the evacuation of individuals with special needs
    in times of emergency. IS [10][7]
    109 S. 1770 Hurricane Katrina Fast-Track Refunds for Working Families
    Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 1920 Renewable Diesel Standard Act of 2005 IS [11][12]
    109 S. 1975 Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
    of 2005 IS
    109 S. 2045 Health Care for Hybrids Act IS [13]
    109 S. 2047 Healthy Communities Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 2048 Lead Free Toys Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 2125 Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and
    Democracy Promotion Act of 2005 RS [14][15]
    109 S. 2149 STEP UP Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 2154 To provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage
    stamp in honor of Rosa Parks. IS
    109 S. 2179 CLEAN UP Act IS
    109 S. 2201 Federal Aviation Administration Fair Labor Management
    Dispute Resolution Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2247 Federal Employees Health Benefits Program Efficiency Act
    of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2257 Hurricane Katrina Working Family Tax Relief Act of 2006
    IS
    109 S. 2259 Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act of 2006
    IS
    109 S. 2261 Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act of 2006
    IS
    109 S. 2280 STOP FRAUD Act IS
    109 S. 2286 Equality for Two-Parent Families Act of 2006 IS

    109 S. 2319 Hurricane Katrina Recovery Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2348 Nuclear Release Notice Act of 2006 RS
    109 S. 2358 VA Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2006 IS

    109 S. 2359 Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2441 Innovation Districts for School Improvement Act IS

    109 S. 2446 American Fuels Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2484 Protecting Taxpayer Privacy Act IS
    109 S. 2506 Healthy Places Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 2984 FILL UP Act IS [13]
    109 S. 3155 To suspend temporarily the duty on RSD 1235. IS

    109 S. 3156 To suspend temporarily the duty on N6-Benzyladenine.
    IS
    109 S. 3157 To suspend temporarily the duty on MCPB acid and MCPB
    sodium salt. IS
    109 S. 3158 To suspend temporarily the duty on 2-Methyl-4-
    chlorophenoxyacetic acid, salts, and esters. IS
    109 S. 3159 To suspend temporarily the duty on gibberellic acid.
    IS
    109 S. 3160 To suspend temporarily the duty on triphenyltin hydroxide.
    IS
    109 S. 3161 To suspend temporarily the duty on certain sebacic acid.
    IS
    109 S. 3162 To suspend temporarily the duty on bromoxynil octonoate.
    IS
    109 S. 3163 To extend temporarily the suspension of duty on certain
    epoxy molding compounds. IS
    109 S. 3243 To suspend temporarily the duty on metsulfuron-methyl.
    IS
    109 S. 3244 To suspend temporarily the duty on dichlorprop-p acid,
    dichlorprop-p dimethylamine salt, and dichlorprop-p 2-ethylhexyl ester.
    IS
    109 S. 3245 To suspend temporarily the duty on 2,4-DB Acid and 2,4-
    DB Dimethylamine Salt. IS
    109 S. 3249 To suspend temporarily the duty on metsulfuron-methyl.
    IS
    109 S. 3250 To suspend temporarily the duty on 2,4-DB Acid and 2,4-
    DB Dimethylamine Salt. IS
    109 S. 3251 To suspend temporarily the duty on dichlorprop-p acid,
    dichlorprop-p dimethylamine salt, and dichlorprop-p 2-ethylhexyl ester.
    IS
    109 S. 3475 Homes for Heroes Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 3554 Alternative Diesel Standard Act of 2006 IS [16]
    109 S. 3627 Mercury Market Minimization Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 3631 Missing Mercury in Manufacturing Monitoring and Mitigation
    Act IS
    109 S. 3694 Fuel Economy Reform Act IS
    109 S. 3757 To designate the facility of the United States Postal
    Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the
    `Katherine Dunham Post Office Building'. IS
    109 S. 3822 Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act of 2006 IS
    [17][18][19]
    [20][21][22]
    109 S. 3969 Lead Poisoning Reduction Act of 2006 IS [23][24]
    109 S. 3988 Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement
    Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 4069 Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
    of 2006 IS
    109 S. 4102 Election Jamming Prevention Act of 2006 IS
    109 S. 697 Higher Education Opportunity Through Pell Grant
    Expansion Act IS
    109 S. 918 E-85 Fuel Utilization and Infrastructure Development
    Incentives Act of 2005 IS
    109 S. 969 Attacking Viral Influenza Across Nations Act of 2005
    IS
    109 S.CON.RES. 42 Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth
    Independence Day, and expressing the sense of Congress that history
    should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and... IS

    109 S.CON.RES. 53 Expressing the sense of Congress that any effort to
    impose photo identification requirements for voting should be rejected.
    IS
    109 S.RES. 291 To congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning
    the 2005 World Series Championship. ATS
    109 S.RES. 516 Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth
    Independence Day and expressing the sense of the Senate that history
    should be regarded as a means for understanding the past and... ATS

    109 S.RES. 529 Designating July 13, 2006, as `National Summer
    Learning Day'. ATS
    110 S. 1067 Healthy Places Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1068 Healthy Communities Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1084 Homes for Heroes Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 114 Innovation Districts for School Improvement Act IS

    110 S. 115 Oil SENSE Act IS [13]
    110 S. 1151 Health Care for Hybrids Act IS [13]
    110 S. 116 STEP UP Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 117 Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement
    Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1181 Shareholder Vote on Executive Compensation Act IS

    110 S. 1222 STOP FRAUD Act IS
    110 S. 1271 Homecoming Enhancement Research and Oversight
    (HERO) Act IS
    110 S. 1306 Lead Free Toys Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1324 National Low-Carbon Fuel Standard Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 133 American Fuels Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1389 Climate Change Education Act IS
    110 S. 1430 Iran Sanctions Enabling Act IS
    110 S. 1513 Predominantly Black Institution Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1574 Teaching Residency Act IS
    110 S. 1713 To provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage
    stamp in honor of Rosa Parks. IS
    110 S. 1790 Communities of Color Teen Pregnancy Prevention Act of
    2007 IS
    110 S. 1811 Lead Poisoning Reduction Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1817 To ensure proper administration of the discharge of
    members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder, and for other
    purposes. IS
    110 S. 1818 Missing Mercury in Manufacturing Monitoring and Mitigation
    Act IS
    110 S. 1824 Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 1873 Improving Emergency Medical Care and Response Act of
    2007 IS
    110 S. 1885 Military Family Job Protection Act IS
    110 S. 1977 Nuclear Weapons Threat Reduction Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 1989 Pigford Claims Remedy Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 2030 To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to
    require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other
    than registered lobbyists. IS
    110 S. 2044 Independent Contractor Proper Classification Act of 2007
    IS
    110 S. 2066 Back to School: Improving Standards for Nutrition and
    Physical Education in Schools Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 2111 Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act IS
    110 S. 2132 To prohibit the introduction or delivery for introduction
    into interstate commerce of children's products that contain lead, and for
    other purposes. IS
    110 S. 2147 Security Contractor Accountability Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 2202 Renewable Fuel Standard Extension Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 2224 Nuclear Release Notice Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 2227 Success in the Middle Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 2330 Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act IS
    110 S. 2347 Prevention Through Affordable Access Act IS
    110 S. 2392 National STEM Scholarship Database Act IS
    110 S. 2428 National STEM Scholarship Database Act IS
    110 S. 2433 Global Poverty Act of 2007 RS
    110 S. 2519 Contracting and Tax Accountability Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 3047 Enhancing Science, Technology, Engineering, and
    Mathematics Education Act of 2008 IS
    110 S. 3077 Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal
    Spending Act of 2008 IS
    110 S. 433 Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 IS [25]
    110 S. 453 Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
    of 2007 RS [26][27][28]
    110 S. 674 Transparency and Accountability in Military and Security
    Contracting Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 692 VA Hospital Quality Report Card Act of 2007 IS

    110 S. 713 Dignity for Wounded Warriors Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 737 Voter Advocate and Democracy Index Act of 2007
    IS
    110 S. 767 Fuel Economy Reform Act IS
    110 S. 768 Fuel Economy Reform Act IS
    110 S. 795 Citizenship Promotion Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 823 Microbicide Development Act IS
    110 S. 906 Mercury Market Minimization Act of 2007 IS
    110 S. 976 Genomics and Personalized Medicine Act of 2007 IS

    110 S.CON.RES. 25 Condemning the recent violent actions of the
    Government of Zimbabwe against peaceful opposition party activists and
    members of civil society. RS [29]
    110 S.CON.RES. 44 Expressing the sense of Congress that a
    commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Rosa Louise
    McCauley Parks. IS
    110 S.CON.RES. 46 Whereas Sickle Cell Disease is an inherited blood
    disorder that is a major health problem in the United States, primarily
    affecting African Americans; IS
    110 S.CON.RES. 5 Honoring the life of Percy Lavon Julian, a pioneer in
    the field of organic chemistry and the first and only African-American
    chemist to be inducted into the National Academy of Sciences. IS

    110 S.J.RES. 23 Whereas the Authorization for the Use of Military
    Force Against Iraq (Public Law 107-243) authorized the President `to use
    the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to... IS

    110 S.RES. 133 Whereas Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson was born in
    1939 to Bishop W.A. and Mrs. Mary Patterson, Sr., in Humboldt,
    Tennessee; ATS
    110 S.RES. 268 Designating July 12, 2007, as `National Summer
    Learning Day'. ATS
    110 S.RES. 383 Honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl
    Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the
    40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio. IS
    [edit]See also
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 03:00 PM GMT+4
    Yeah, yeah, yeah. That list just proves he is a Washington insider! ;-)

    ---
    Paula
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 03:30 PM GMT+4
    Go Spud! Tell em the truth, brother!

    Know the truth, and the truth shall set you free!

    ---
    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Homey on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 02:25 PM GMT+4
    Had no doubt my opening review would get it going!

    Please permit me to share with you part an email I sent, responding
    to a good and wise Vermont friend of mine this morning. It is a bit
    lengthy, but I think hits some of the important points, catches
    what these crafty Republicans are up to:

    [Him:] What's UNSPOKEN is the white elephant(s) in the room --

    We're seeing a clash between a patriarchal party -- the Republicans --
    by their own selection process inviting the necessary scrutiny and
    challenging of core patriarchal values and issues. Palin is a woman,
    sure; her values are conservative and patriarchal.

    [Me:] Indeed. And "proud of it."

    [Him:] Sarah carried herself smartly as the right wing Erin Brockovich
    -- if cult of celebrity and her Julia Roberts brass even beguiles you,
    Michael, we are in BIG f---ing trouble.

    [Me:] No way. Barack Obama beguiles me. I was just surprised to find
    that Sarah Palin was such a strong, confident, grounded lady. I mean,
    I knew she was that to some extent, given her amazing track record
    in Alaska and general biography. But I assumed, big fish in small pond
    (not to say Alaska is not big in territory). I thought she'd be a fish out
    of water and over her head, to throw out two clichés, on national
    exposure. I was actually feeling sorry, in advance, for her and her
    family. Well, nothing to feel sorry for. In the world of Republican
    values (strong, tough, "tested," fearless leader, patriarchal, as you
    say; America is never wrong, sort of shit) she carries herself well,
    "like a man." And she is a surprisingly strong public speaker.

    So I was impressed, as in impressed with the strength and stealth of
    my opponent. Yes, she carried herself well, right wing Erin Brockovich,
    very well said. I didn't expect that, which impressed me all the more.

    The McCain campaign is laid out. Yes, it's about old patriarchal values,
    as you say. We are strong, we are tested under fire, In these
    "dangerous, uncertain times," building on the Code Orange culture of
    fear already well established, groundwork carefully laid by eight years
    of Bush-Cheney relentless propaganda, we will need the "strong" and
    "fearless" and "courageous" leadership, such as only the "tested"
    P.O.W. (five f---ing years in the "Hanoi Hilton") along with the
    "backs down to no one" Governor of Alaska barking at his heels, can
    give you. Soft élite privileged latté-drinking types like Obama and
    Biden won't save you. They can talk sweet words, but are untested by
    the real fire. McCain, Palin, Giuliani-- these are the "real thing," the
    hunter-warriors.





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    homey
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: CDoubleday on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 02:47 PM GMT+4
    It was an alright speech, in that she had no major screwups and she delivered it well and it'll probably sit well with her base. On the other hand, it was so full of vitriol and lies that it was pretty disgusting and shows what kind of politician she is. For all she criticized Obama for being all speech and no substance there was virtually no substance at all in her own speech. I just can help but seeing her get get ripped up in the VP debates, lies and regurgitated republican talking points just won't sit well against Biden. The media coverage has been pretty disgusting too, considering they've all been blindly praising her for giving a decent speech instead of actually examining it closely. But of course that's what the media's about, all style no substance.
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 03:20 PM GMT+4
    I listened to some of her speech, and some of Rudy Giuliani's speech last night. While each had their clever versions of the Republicans' signature snarky soundbites, overall I was struck by how much Republicans love fear (just look at Alan's "B. Hussein Obama"), and how little they understand what happened on 9/11.

    Almost seven years after the attacks on the WTC and pentagon, they believe they've "kept us safe" from further attacks. What they don't seem to undertand is that further attacks haven't been necessary from the terrorists' viewpoint.

    Why? Because the Republicans have handed terrorists the victory they sought. Being a bunch that's enamored with hyperbole and symbolism, Republicans (okay, AND Democrats) thought of the attack in terms of a territorial/ideological dispute that could be settled with the defeat of the enemy.
    Of course, what the terrorists wanted to do, (as Bush almost figured out in his savant-like statement that "they hate our freedom"), was to attack the freedom, prosperity, and safety we enjoyed but actively denied to other people in the world.

    By engaging in torture, domestic wiretapping, restrictive security measures, general fear-mongering, turning our longtime allies against us, and emptying our treasury of trillions of dollars, these idiots have perfected a victory beyond the terrorists' wildest dreams.

    What I saw last night was just more Republican "aid and comfort to the enemy."

    -Maus

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    Psyche!
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 03:42 PM GMT+4
    Can I get an Amen?!

    This administration HAS done exactly what the world's terrorists wanted- bankrupted our economy; made Americans susceptible to fear and believing lies; taken our freedoms away; shamed us in our own eyes, stripping our pride in being Staties; brought the oil magnates power beyond their dreams and wealth to the point of obscenity. I'd say THEIR mission is accomplished.

    We, the People, on the other hand, can change that. Don't vote out of fear, don't vote for the same old, same young ticket; vote Obama/Biden. It's the only chance we have.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 04:05 PM GMT+4
    Since we're getting all pesky with details here thought I'd just share a
    lighter moment, a piece I just saw on Vanity Fair.
    They are estimating that Cindy McCains outfit last night cost around
    $300,000. This is with the assumption that the jewels were all real, if they
    were paste it would have only been around $150,000. (Yes, that's
    thousands folks, not a typo). I say "let 'em eat moose stew and caribou."
    Cindy McCain
    Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
    Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
    Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
    Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
    Shoes, designer unknown: $600
    Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 04:12 PM GMT+4
    Jeeze, Spud, whadja expect? The prospective First Lady can't wear some five-figure getup from WarMart, you know.

    ---
    Psyche!
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 05:38 PM GMT+4
    Personally I think they underestimated the cost of the shoes.

    The very day that TV cameras were showing drowning people in New
    Orleans as the levees broke, Condi was on Madison Avenue shoe shopping.
    The store was in carries foot decor that runs about $1,000 to start per pair
    (yes, per pair). A woman who was shopping in the same store recognized
    her and totally lost it. Yelling at her "What are you doing buying shoes,
    people are drowning...why aren't you in Washington?"

    Cost of shoes aside, I thought it was a good question.
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: hayseed on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 10:50 PM GMT+4
    We, the People, on the other hand, can change that. Don't vote out of fear, don't vote for the same old, same young ticket; vote Obama/Biden. It's the only chance we have.

    Don't vote out of FEAR?
    Thats all that the Democrates have is fear! As long as they keep the people afraid then they will prevail. Without fear they are a do nothing party, of course they do nothing anyway.
    I think the fear today is that with Sara Palin on the ticket the Republicans have a very good chance of winning in November. She is what the voters have been looking for. She represents the average American voter. Not a Washington insider.
    Always remember. Leaders are not made. They are born!
    I think that she will do just fine!
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 11:52 PM GMT+4
    That's all such twisted, Limbaugh-like horse hockey that it isn't surprising she's got your vote.

    We don't need another cheerleader in the White House.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Aid and comfort
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 02:30 AM GMT+4
    Let's talk on Monday
    Noonan and Murphy on Palin
    Authored by: Zeno on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 04:55 PM GMT+4
    It doesn't sound like former Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan and former McCain strategist Mike Murphy are too happy about the pick. Their off-camera conversation was picked up by a hot mike on NBC.

    Some samples:

    Noonan:
    "It's over." and "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this -- excuse me -- political bulls**t about narratives and youthfulness in the picture. Every time Republicans do that -- because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at -- they blow it."

    Murphy:
    "You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatest of McCain is no cynicism, and it is cynical."

    Noonan has done some backpedaling in her column, saying she 'got mugged by the nature of modern media' and what she meant by 'it's over' was that the Republican 'party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people.'

    Sarah Palin - "It's cynical"
    Authored by: George Tirebiter on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 06:02 PM GMT+4
    Here’s what Peggy Noonan, a prominent conservative commentator, said on Wednesday, on MSNBC's Chuck Todd. She thought that her microphone was turned off during a conversation with top GOP strategist Mike Murphy.

    Peggy Noonan: "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives ... Every time Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it."

    (You can read Noonan's column in the Wall Street Journal. Today's column is interesting to read.)

    Finally GOP strategist Mike Murphy said about the choice of Palin (again unaware that his microphone was on), "You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and it's cynical."

    Sarah Palin - "It's cynical"
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 07:38 PM GMT+4
    One more fun tidbit:
    Georgia Republican Rep. Lynn Westmoreland when asked about Palin
    referenced Barack and Michele Obama (oh, excuse me, B. Hussein Obama
    and his wife) and referred to them as...get this...

    UPPITY!!!!!!

    Nice work, keep going Republicans, I'm sending another check as I write
    this.
    Sarah Palin - "It's cynical"
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 07:42 PM GMT+4
    The Congressman's office number is
    202-225-5901
    You could call and let him know what your opinion of using the expression

    UPPITY

    to describe the Obama's.
    Sarah Palin - "It's cynical"
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 07:43 PM GMT+4
    Just to clarify, that check is going to Barack "Uppity" Hussein Obama
    Three Desperate Replies
    Authored by: George Tirebiter on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 02:04 AM GMT+4
    I'm all a glitter and a glow from this attention from somebody who hates
    me.
    Three Desperate Replies
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 02:33 AM GMT+4
    What, you're Lynn Westmoreland?
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 07:41 PM GMT+4
    It was written for a cheerleader, and delivered as such. Rah, rah, we're better! Nyah, nyah, their team sucks!

    Vapid, smug and attacking. Siss, boom, blah.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: TaoJones on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 11:02 PM GMT+4
    See this is the problem and people probably don't even realize they are doing it. People (female and male) feel compelled to first comment on her demeanor then the content of her speech. I've seen shrill, nasty and now "sneering". One editorial commented on her hairstyle. I'm surprised nobody suggested she was "on her monthly". My young daughter does not know who is pro choice, but she does know which of the four candidates does not have a penis. The ceiling must be broken, ideology must take a backseat to gender. If the Obama people would have realized this he would have been a lock. Democratic women should send a message to the leadership and stand up for one of their own.
    Sarah Palin's Sneer at the RNC
    Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 11:17 PM GMT+4
    "Sneering" is something she quite literally did. She was unserious and juvenile and petty.

    But my point, if you actually read my post, is that her demeanor is irrelevant. She is a right-wing extremist and a liar. Do you have a response to my actual critique?

    By the way, the idea that someone should be given favors based purely on anatomy is NOT a feminist position. Clinton was popular with feminists because they agreed with her positions and she was also a woman. Not merely because she was a woman. If McCain had put Colin Powell on his ticket, I am betting most African-Americans would still vote for Obama, because he represents their beliefs. For the vast majority of voters, having your beliefs represented is the fundamental thing, and the rest is the icing on the cake.

    Speaking of which, the fact that Sarah Palin would advocate for children with disabilities is not proven by her record. My judgment of her is based not on who she wants us to think she is, but on what she has actually done. And her use of executive power and privilege has been outrageous. She is much more like Bush than McCain is.

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    Paula
    Somebody has a hypocrisy problem!!
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 11:44 PM GMT+4
    So you're incensed by sexism, but ideology should take a back seat to gender and women should vote based on gender?

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    Psyche!
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, September 04 2008 @ 11:53 PM GMT+4
    So you think it's appropriate for children to learn not to vote for issues but
    for what body parts candidates possess? This is exactly what women have
    been fighting against for years, held back from jobs and political office
    because they do not have the appropriate body parts. So now you want
    the reverse to happen....women should only vote for Palin because she
    lacks a penis. Isn't this reverse discrimination.

    You demean women's intelligence when you encourage this as a standard
    for voting. You want women to vote for someone who will take women's
    rights both socially and economically back to the 30s because her anatomy
    matches theirs.

    If we follow this track women will vote someone in office who could easily
    pass legislation that will take away their right to vote. Man that is one
    backward move for women.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:02 AM GMT+4
    "Democratic women should send a message to the leadership and stand up for one of their own."
    So Dems should send a message by voting for an anti-choice, anti-gay rights Republican liar because she has a vagina? When one of our own gets there, we'll vote for her. Palin is as much like me as Phyllis Schlafly is. Which is not at all. She's not "one of my own" by any means.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: TaoJones on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:55 AM GMT+4
    But you see annikee, you said it yourself in "On Sarah Palin" 51% of the Black electorate is female and they voted overwhelmingly for Sen. Obama. Was his feminist message that much stronger? No, sadly, the truth is that historically the voter's political pecking order is, race, then gender, then party. Although some will no doubt vote their conscience, a large percentage of the female vote WILL break for Gov. Palin simply because she is a woman.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:04 AM GMT+4
    Wrong. The Repos are wishing and hoping, thinking and praying. But the voting women of this country aren't Barbie dolls, and won't vote anything other than their conscience. They aren't "conditioned". And they want healthcare for themselves and families, they want social services for those in need, they believe in choice. The Repos should be scared, as they are.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:19 AM GMT+4
    And another thing-"Was his feminist message that much stronger?" Than whose? Palin's? She's not a feminist. She's a working woman. There is a difference, you know. Or are you used to painting women with such broad strokes that you don't know that? Than Hillary's? I'd say they were about the same. Clinton's problem was that she had a somewhat lousy campaign all along.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 02:41 AM GMT+4
    "historically the voter's political pecking order is, race, then gender, then
    party. "

    Based on what?????

    All those surveys in all those historical political races where there were all
    those minority and female candidates running?

    Yeah, that's one thing I've always been proud of about the USA, all those
    campaigns since the 1900s where all those women ran for office even
    before they could vote.
    What a Country!
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: TaoJones on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:15 AM GMT+4
    Again, without even realizing they are doing it....... Juvenille? petty? Why don't we just get right down to it and say she was "bitchy". Nobody is suggesting that women want special favors because of gender, but what good is supporting an agenda that is dismissive and denys them a chance to be recognized. Better to send a positive message to young women that "somebody" takes them seriously.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:24 AM GMT+4
    Tao
    Are you serious? "an agenda that is dismissive and denys them a chance
    to be recognized"

    The Democratic agenda is far from dismissive of women's issues just
    because Obama didn't pick Clinton as VP. Women should trade the "chance
    to be recognized" by voting for a female VP candidate even though she
    embraces policies that would be detrimental to their lives....

    This is exactly the sort of calculated sexist thinking that McCain used when
    picking Palin. Surely you jest...
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:24 AM GMT+4
    Along that line of logic, I shouldn't vote at all, because not a one of them represents me fully. And it's still a laughable idea that Clinton supporters would ever get by Palin. She is the Anti-Hillary. Repos are really getting desperate, I tell ya.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: pjmelton on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:52 AM GMT+4
    There is nothing sexist about the terms "juvenile" and "petty." That you think they generally apply to women is rather telling. But if it pleases you, I will call her speech pusillanimous instead. Laughing at someone for being a community organizer 20 years ago is truly revolting.

    But you still have not addressed the real issue: she is a right-wing extremist and a liar. I don't give two spits about the speech.

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    Paula
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: TaoJones on Saturday, September 06 2008 @ 01:02 AM GMT+4
    Feminism-political, economic and social equality of the sexes. PERIOD. Meaning there are right wing feminists. Liberal feminists, Republican feminists. Right to Life feminists. Any other issues, abortion, etc... . are issues that have been cooped by groups acting under the guise of feminism. Now do many feminists align themselves with these groups? Absolutely, but the fact remains the only true feminist choice by definition is Gov. Palin. She embodies all the qualities that we as parents need to empower our daughters to excel. The sexist attacks by the Democratic party are going to backfire.









    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: pjmelton on Saturday, September 06 2008 @ 01:15 AM GMT+4
    OK, Tao, dear. If you didn't want to engage in an actual conversation, you could have just said that.

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    Paula
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: SpudHill on Saturday, September 06 2008 @ 10:09 PM GMT+4
    Tao
    I think you're a little confused. If you think a "true feminist" would HAVE
    to vote for Palin you're really not getting it. I suggest you go back and re-
    read Chapters 3 and 4 in the "Feminist Handguide."

    Personally I think she seems to be way too loose with the truth and
    hypocritical to be a good role model for young women. But to each their
    own I guess.
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:44 AM GMT+4
    What concerns me most is the rabidly religious. I'm as religious as the next guy, but I've never thought it my right to tell someone else how to believe, or that my religious beliefs should control government. So I've got some major agita over this:
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/3/114431/1606/779/582989

    That religious fanaticism has come to this point, in our nation, is truly frightening. In no time, we could become a theocracy, no better than those we condemn for it; just another flavor of bigotry.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay

    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 11:26 AM GMT+4
    ***McCain’s VP choice, Sarah Palin, suddenly made me want to vote for him, as long as the LORD smites him while he’s in office.***
    SMITES? Are these people living in a different millenium or what? Maybe their "LORD" could choose a little more modern punishment - like stretching on the rack, or keel-hauling, for example.

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    Psyche!
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 11:41 AM GMT+4
    It's an imprecatory prayer movement- one prays that your enemy is struck down (smacks of Satanism, to me, if you've ever studied Satanism). The idea is that McCain is unpure, so he should be elected, then smote, so that Palin becomes President. The Theocratic Dominionists are ablaze over this.

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: tiny on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:19 PM GMT+4
    I watched the whole speech by Governor Palin. A lot can be said about various portions of it, plenty to dispute and take challenge with. But I was moved as she introduced and talked about her family.

    There were three lines of her speech that struck me and spoke directly to me in a way no current or former candidate on a federal, state, or local level has ever done:

    "And children with special needs inspire a special love.
    To the families of special-needs all across this country, I have a message: For years, you sought to make America a more welcoming place for your sons and daughters.
    I pledge to you that if elected, you have a friend and advocate in the White House."

    Now that's something I thought I would never hear said by a politician.
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:31 PM GMT+4
    Yeah, she said it.
    On closer look it appears she "talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk."
    With friends like this who needs enemies.

    The figures below are from Momocrats.typepad.com

    GOVERNOR PALIN CUTS SPECIAL ED FUNDING BY 60%

    In 2007, before Palin assumed her office of governor, the State of Alaska
    FY2007 Governor’s Operating Budget for the Department of Education and
    Early Development Special Schools Component Budget Summary (this
    department provides services---not just school but services---for children
    with severe disabling conditions) includes approved and necessary budget
    increases to help special needs children. This budget was released in
    December, on the 15th to be precise, 2006.

    In that budget, the budget actuals are (FY = Fiscal Year):

    FY 2005 6945.30
    FY 2007 Management Plan 7949.30
    FY 2007 Governors 8265.30

    Palin was elected governor in November of 2006, and assumed her position
    in January 2007.

    When budget time rolled around in 2007, Sarah Palin---self professed
    advocate for special needs chldren, mother to a special needs child, aunt
    to a special needs child, and who promised in her acceptance speech last
    night that she was there for special needs children---slashed the budget.
    When she said she would be a "friend and advocate in the White House," I
    guess she just meant in words, not with actual money for needed services.

    Here's what the State of Alaska FY2008 Governor’s Operating Budget for
    the Department of Education and Early Development Special Schools
    Component Budget Summary shows:

    FY 2006 7949.30
    FY 2007 Management Plan 3173.70
    FY 2008 Governor 3156.00

    You see right. Under Governor Palin, funds decreased from a planned
    budget of 8265.30 to 3156.0. That's a 62% decrease. Actual consumed
    amount went from 7949.3 to 3156.00, where it lingers to this day. That's a
    60% decrease.

    How many children lost services? Too many.
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 01:33 PM GMT+4
    Oh, I just figured it out Tiny.
    She meant families with special needs children have a friend in the White
    House but not in Alaska.
    Ya think?
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: tiny on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 03:31 PM GMT+4
    Interesting post Spudhill. Here's one I found:

    Http://www.parentalcation.blogspot.com/2008/09/governor-palin-supports-special-needs.html

    All this spinning makes one dizzy.
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 04:40 PM GMT+4
    Thanks, I'd heard about this but hadn't found it yet.
    I guess what we need to do is sit down and really look at the figures to be
    fair but at first blush this indicates a 15% increase but that is in a
    General Fund which also covers Gifted Education and a couple of other
    things mentioned.

    So.......if the original cut in the one fund was 65% and let's assume a
    generous 8% increase earmarked (pardon the expression) for Special
    Needs/Education Funding in this posting you've made, you're still looking
    at a 57% cut total for Special
    Needs children, n'est pas?

    Hard to tell. Also Special Education is a different category in most school
    systems than Special Needs. Special Ed would include dyslexia and other
    sorts of conditions that would not require paraprofessionals in the
    classroom or inclusion programs. So that 8% might not really be directed
    towards what would be a Special Needs child...such as Palin's new son
    or say a child with severe autism.

    Regardless you're talking about a 65% cut in one area buffered by what is
    probably at best 8% increase in another area so let's change that title to
    Palin Cuts Special Ed Funding by 57%.

    But yes, who knows with all the spin.
    My reaction to the speech
    Authored by: SpudHill on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 04:54 PM GMT+4
    Sorry this is getting confusing.
    It was 62% on the original article so the overall cut would be 54%.

    But then I noticed another thing...this may be comparing apples and
    oranges and references something I'd heard. It looks as if that 62% cut
    was for Special Needs Schools. There is also a move towards programs
    called "Inclusion" which often include children who in the past would not
    have been in regular classrooms. I've heard that Palin favors "inclusion".
    So what it looks like is she cut the program to have separate schools for
    special needs kids.
    And then increased funding into a general fund but that fund also includes
    gifted programs and some other things and the increase was only 15%.

    At any rate, it looks to me like she did cut the Special Needs "School"
    62%, while increasing a Special Education fund by 15% but that fund
    includes Gifted Education programs.

    I think the original post holds true...she did cut funding for Special Needs
    Schools.




    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 12:59 PM GMT+4
    Back to what we were saying- perhaps waterboarding the infidels?

    "Git God or Gitmo"?

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    "Satisfy, have peace of mind, love your neighbor as your brother."- Richie Furay
    Sarah Palin's Speech at the RNC
    Authored by: Homey on Friday, September 05 2008 @ 02:21 PM GMT+4
    To sum up:
    "The four verbal nonvirtues are lying, divisiveness, harsh speech, and
    senseless speech."

    HH the Dalai Lama





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  • High Peaks Band @ The Beacon Bar

  • Saturday 19-May
  • The Stone Trust Two-Day Outdoor Dry Stone Wall Workshop
  • Kids Day at the Brattleboro Farmers Market
  • Wood Heat Workshop and Fair
  • Walk for Life -AIDS Project
  • Geranium Festival and Book Sale
  • Dr. James Gilligan, Why Some Politicians Are More Dangerous Than Others
  • Now & Then Vehicles Club Cruise Night
  • A Taste of the Town
  • Nervous but Excited with Jackson Emmer
  • Vermont Jazz Center presents Howard Brofsky and Friends
  • Household Hazard Waste Collections
  • Intercept @ The Beacon Bar

  • Sunday 20-May
  • The Stone Trust Two-Day Outdoor Dry Stone Wall Workshop
  • Children's Day Festival of Japan and China
  • Transition Putney - Reskilling: Herbal Identification Stroll

  • Monday 21-May
  • Dummerston Cares Program & Light Luncheon
  • Communication Cafe
  • "Where (we) Live" Work-in-Progress Showings by VPL Lab Artist So Percussion

  • Tuesday 22-May
  • Pink Pint Night
  • "Where (we) Live" Work-in-Progress Showings by VPL Lab Artist So Percussion

  • Wednesday 23-May
  • An Evening of Poetry

  • Thursday 24-May
  • WSWMD Policy/Personnel Committee
  • Southern Vermont Scrabble Club
  • WSWMD Planning/Operations Comm.
  • Karaoke Thursday @ The Beacon Bar

  • Friday 25-May
  • "Where (we) Live" Work-in-Progress Showings by VPL Lab Artist So Percussion
  • Turkuaz $ Medicine Warriors @ The Beacon Bar

  • Saturday 26-May
  • Dummerston Rummage Sale
  • Talkin' Smack @ The Beacon Bar

  • Brattleboro Weekly Poll
    Regarding teens and Gallery Walk, I mostly
    enjoy their presence and youthful energy
    am bothered by their cursing and mayhem
    think a few teens give others a bad rep
    think grumpy adults should get over it
    think teens should be better supervised while out
    would like to see more artistic activities for teens
    have not noticed any problems
    other
    Results
    56 votes | 2 comments