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    We've a Story To Tell To The Nations    
    Friday, January 02 2009 @ 02:15 PM GMT+4
    Contributed by: xteeth

    Opinion I'd like to collect all the stories about the horrible Unions and compare them with all the stories about stock brokers, hedge fund managers, trustifarians and others representative of those classes who produce nothing. Let's start with the Union stuff though. We have to hurry because Union membership is down from a high of about 35% to less than 7%. The effort is worthy as at least one union man or woman must have done something because just look at all those cars all that coal, all that steel, all those educated kids, all those skyscrapers.

    Here is a typical story, this one told by an iBrattleboro contributor, which you might have missed because the story was dead. "He (a Steelworker?) told me of a story about how the union guys would place a rock between the belly pan and the oil pan of the gravel processors." (Sabotage to avoid work) This is quite typical of these stories, told by an unidentified someone to someone else who has never been in a union and expresses hostility. This thread could extend over to all those jokes about DPW workers with 9 guys standing around with one guy in the trench digging. Pretty funny to anyone who has never been in a trench and hit in the back of the head by some other clod's shovel. There is so much of this crap in everyone's head that even I have to tamp it down and I was in fact a Steelworker for a period of time.

    Here are things that unions have done. Raised wages. Instituted work safety. Ended child labor. Created the middle class out of low wage uneducated (for the most part) members. Ended the 10-12 hour day and the 6 and 7 day work week. Fought for a minimum wage.Helped to end vertical monopolies. Created the idea of benefits - most particularly health care. Creation of the expectation of retirement benefits. Life insurance. Disability benefits. Paid leave. End of child labor.

    Conveniently forgotten is that these benefits didn't occur in upper management before unions aggitated for them at the blue collar level. If unions had not fought for them none of us would have them. Couldn't very well let that dirty fingernail crowd get ahead of the bosses, now could we?

    So tell me all your second hand featherbedding stories, make work stories, laziness stories, Democratic corruption of election through unions stories, apprenticeship limits entry stories and on and on. Be sure though that you were there. Otherwise they are about as useless as those stories about stock brokers jumping out of the Empire State Building on Black Friday 1929. Later, we'll get on to all the paper shuffling, reposession of homes and other examples of usury.

     

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    We've a Story To Tell To The Nations
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 02 2009 @ 07:08 PM GMT+4
    I know a broadway stage hand who worked for years to get into a union, IATSE. He now has the wages, benefits and job security he longed for all those years when he worked like a dog with no protection. He'll get a pension if he can keep working another 20 years. He's talking about buying a house now. Wait, this is supposed to be a unions suck thread. Sorry.

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    Nyah nyah, nyah nyah!
    We've a Story To Tell To The Nations
    Authored by: cgrotke on Saturday, January 03 2009 @ 01:04 AM GMT+4
    I would say the worst story I could honestly come up with about
    unions is
    their required work in convention centers.

    I have been to many a trade show where we were not allowed to plug
    things in on our own. Only the union guys could do it.

    I'd say running a $50 billion Ponzi scheme bothers me much more, but
    I
    really felt at the time that were were capable of setting things up
    ourselves, and didn't see the point of paying extra - but it was house
    rules.

    How's that?
    We've a Story To Tell To The Nations
    Authored by: spoon on Saturday, January 03 2009 @ 02:47 AM GMT+4
    Not exactly a worst story but rather a great sadness...that after so many thousands of workers sacrificed their lives and hundreds of thousand sacrificed so much else to win basic rights and protections to live decently it would happen in almost all cases that the spirit fueling it all would be lost by the second generation. Once workers had "theirs" the tendency was to circle the wagons, batten down the hatches, protect their own and do little for the others that had yet insufficient power to unionize. I think of the western miners early in the century, the railroad workers soon after, the coal miners in the 20's and the autoworkers in the 30's battling corporate goons, armies of Pinkertons and even the National Guard to win the right to share even a pittance of this country's great wealth...and I also think of the miners and autoworkers et al of the 50's and 60's snubbing blacks and women and unskilled workers of all types and stripes. Construction workers in the 60's and 70's hooting at the demonstrators marching for peace while determinedly refusing to acknowledge that just a generation or two before their own parents were no better off than the same peasants the world over that their own country was bombing, brutalizing and exploiting.

    Years ago I watched on television part of a professional football game being played by scrubs
    when the regulars were out on strike. It was the first time I had ever crossed a picket line. And I will do everything in my power to make sure it was the last.

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