Authored by: Brattlebird on Wednesday, January 14 2009 @ 10:58 PM GMT+4

What a caring and generous posting! I am housed and warm, and stuffy with a cold, but your kindness warms me throughout. Thank you.

Authored by: mr.mike on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 01:38 AM GMT+4

I agree that's a nice offer Annikee. You know we may need to get used to this. I'm hearing that some climatologists are saying we may be headed for a mini ice age again. Apparently the arctic ice is thicker now than it was in 1979.

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Vermont, where people are milked more than cows when it comes to taxes.

Authored by: cbridge on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 02:33 AM GMT+4

Cows pay taxes??! Now that's just carrying things too far!

Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 11:04 AM GMT+4

I must chime in here, what a "warm"-hearted offer.

Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 11:06 AM GMT+4

By the way just got an email from a friend in Canada. It was -27 at her house yesterday, they're hoping it goes UP to -12 today. Just some perspective as we face a couple of cold days.

Authored by: annikee on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:34 PM GMT+4

My cousin in BC has been reporting -20sF, too. This cold could kill, and we should all be looking out for each other. Thanks for the kind words, but I was hoping to start a chain amongst us. If anyone knows anyone whose heat goes out, we could have a list of places for warm shelter for the night. We can do this among ourselves and everyone we know- and don't know- can be safe. A little inconvenience for a night is a small sacrifice to keep a fellow human okay. Please join me in being on a stand by list for someone in need of a warm place to sleep. Thanks.
~Laura

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Nyah nyah, nyah nyah!

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 12:14 PM GMT+4

I am amazed at your apparent ability to politicize absolutely everything.

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Paula

Authored by: SJD on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 12:39 PM GMT+4

Yea but.... I've been brow beaten to believe we should be planting palms and enjoying our seaside view from Battleboro.

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"Government's view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 01:36 PM GMT+4

Authored by: Maus Anon E on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:06 PM GMT+4

You should read beyond the headlines, where you'll discover that "global warming" is actually global climate change, and wild swings in weather are part of what the science predicts.

I'm glad to see that Mr. Mike is finally admitting that global climate change is occurring. There is hope.

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Freemarket economy: A socialist system in which workers' earnings are redistributed to affluent citizens.

Authored by: SJD on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:16 PM GMT+4

I heard folks are burning Al Gore's book to keep warm... Just change the label and start blaming everything on climate change, doesn't the climate always change.. it's called seasons.. I predict revisions of books and other materials by simply substituding Climate Change for the former Global Warming words, to make them current. ...... the digital revolution..

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"Government's view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:29 PM GMT+4

Authored by: SJD on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:46 PM GMT+4

Careful of that Wikipedia stuff, remember you can edit it to your own bias...

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"Government's view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:50 PM GMT+4

The definition of "climate" is not in dispute.

And wikipedia is invariably a good place to start when you know nothing at all about a topic, as is evidently the case for you.

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Paula

Authored by: SJD on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:59 PM GMT+4

Here is a bit of interesting facts for January 20 in a language you can understand:

Celebrities, politicians, and bigwigs using 600 private jets will produce 25,320,000 POUNDS of CO2

Personal vehicles could account for 262,483,200 POUNDS of CO2

In the parade, horses alone will produce more than 400 POUNDS of CO2

The total carbon footprint for the Inauguration will likely exceed 575 million POUNDS of CO2

It would take the average U.S. household 57,598 years to produce a carbon footprint equal to that of the new president’s housewarming party

I thought this was the GREEN PRESIDENT, wouldn't he been better off having this televised from a small energy efficient room... and sending all the right signals to the world ?

http://thechillingeffect.org/2009/01/14/ifl-inauguration-will-produce-575-million-pounds-of-co2/

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"Government's view of the economy: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 04:03 PM GMT+4

Language I can understand?

Would you mind explaining that remark?

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Paula

Authored by: Maus Anon E on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 04:45 PM GMT+4

I know what you mean, SJD, it's amazing that people are so thick that they can't understand that "global warming" doesn't meant that every thermometer on earth is going to go up by a certain number of degrees in unison, and that the general "warming" of the earth can result in extreme weather of any kind.

There probably will have to be a change in terminology so that even those who are the most obtuse can understand the concept.


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Freemarket economy: A socialist system in which workers' earnings are redistributed to affluent citizens.

Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:38 PM GMT+4

HEH
What's so political about -27 degrees....oh yeah, and Canada.

Unless you caught my obscure and very well hidden put-down of Sarah Palin by referencing her being able to see Canada from her hot tub......

Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:39 PM GMT+4

Wrong place......Meant to post that following this PJMelton post which follows my post.......

"I am amazed at your apparent ability to politicize absolutely everything.

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:53 PM GMT+4

Sorry - I was responding to mr. mike. Did my egg go to the wrong nest? It looked right to me.



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Paula

Authored by: SpudHill on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 04:40 PM GMT+4

Oh so my veiled slam on Palin went unnoticed....good.

I figured there was a misplacement somewhere there but for a moment I thought we were actually on opposite sides of the fence there but then I thought Heh, what would Melton have against cold temperatures in Canada....didn't make sense somehow.

Let me guess, did Mike make a reference to global warming being a big bunch of nothing because of the low temps? Guess he and some others don't know much about history, don't know much about biology and don't know much about climate change either (sing to the tune of What a Wonderful World it would Be. Seems folks that as the arctic oceans vaporize colder temperatures can occur as well as changes in cold weather patterns ... and in fact parts of northern Europe are predicted to ice over....

So if you had illusions of pulling out the beach chairs and floppy straw hats and luxuriating on the banks of the river here in December you may be in for a big surprise. Hey, we could be wearing mukluks in June....the problem here is that nobody's really sure how this global warming will affect particular areas...and that's the expression GLOBAL warming not Vermont warming or northern US warming.

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 04:49 PM GMT+4

I am starting to think the Republicans should just go ahead and re-brand themselves as the Know Nothing Party again.

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You’re entitled to your own opinions — but you’re not entitled to your own facts.

Authored by: cgrotke on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:21 PM GMT+4

Donations of blankets, coats, mittens, hats, scarves, etc. are all still
needed. Food, too.

I was in the River Garden the other day and many people were using it
as a place to stay warm during the day.

Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:30 PM GMT+4

Who is collecting donations? Drop-In Center?

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Paula

Authored by: annikee on Thursday, January 15 2009 @ 03:40 PM GMT+4

The DIC, the Baptist church, the soup kitchens, all need help.

Also, if anyone knows anyone at the Window Quilts place: I've been trying to get them to donate the runoff remnants to stitch together for ground barriers, so far no response at all. A woman is waiting to sew the strips together, but we have no strips! Please, if you know the Window Quilt people, ask them to donate the remnants.

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Nyah nyah, nyah nyah!