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    It Is Not Rocket Science    
    Wednesday, July 08 2009 @ 06:18 PM GMT+4
    Contributed by: sender

    Opinion Sad that an attorney as well versed in the law as Jesse Corum doesn't immediately know that it is a basic constitutional right of Americans to peacefully assemble. While the State can regulate to a certain degree (time, place, manner) so that, for example two demonstrations are not in the same place at the same time - basically all citizens can freely stand around and assemble. You can go look it up. Try the FIRST amendment.

    In fact, if enforcement is as described in iBrattleboro, I would suggest that any youth or other aggrieved person IMMEDIATELY call the Vermont ACLU. Their number is 223-2604. If the voters are happy about paying Mr. Martin a quarter of a million dollars, and paying off protesters and taser victims, I guess voters will similarly be happy paying off parents and children, whose basic,fundamental constitutional rights are dissed and dismissed by the police and Selectboard in Brattleboro. Maybe $1000 per kid per incident.

    Note to Barbara Sondag - the idea that it is acceptable to arrest the innocent and the guilty - straighten it out later - is about an unAmerican as you can get. It is what totaliarian societies do. It is also illegal if it could be proven as a policy of this Town. And it is really sad that Attorney Corum hasn't pointed this out. As a former Deputy Prosecutor, I am sure he knows the United States Supreme Court precedents. And I thought that conservatives believed in enforcing the original meaning of the Constitution. Silly me!

    I agree that there is a problem with drugs, including alcohol, in the downtown area.However, destroying our village in order to save it is neither good social policy, nor, apparently, particularly legal. Good police work on individualized cases and Neighborhood Watch will accomplish a lot more than unleashing the police indiscriminately on our children, good and bad. After all, they are our children.

     

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    And It's Not Rollerball
    Authored by: spinoza on Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 11:05 AM GMT+4
    To my mind, this article hits all the notes about why the situation is town is such a bummer.

    The police are put in a terrible bind here, forced to enforce what they know is essentially benign, as if it were a elevated security risk situation. The fault lies with town leaders for not fast-tracking a sensible interim solution, and instead holding the scepter of wrath over the heads of kids doing basically what kids do.

    Barb simultaneously calls for a task force to look at the ordinance, says the crack-down will continue unabated, and claims no solution has been brought forth. How is this not the same shell game?

    You want solutions- how about this as a start?

    -To preserve safety in town--No skating downtown on Main street or Elliot street, or in any high traffic situations.

    -To give skaters options- Flat street, the whetstone pathway, and outlying roads are OK, proceed with caution, yield to cars.

    -Rec property facilities, tennis courts, basketball courts, etc- when not in use, are OK to roll on.

    -If the town can't trust skaters to practice their art safely in the town-at-large, designate a few parking spots in corners of lots, set up cones. Purchase or build mini ramps, as a temporary measure.

    -And again, set a few hours for recreation and social congregation in the upper garage M-TH- 6-10.

    It's the threat of youth here that's inflated, and scapegoating is primitive. We can do better, and should do better ASAP.
    It Is Not Rocket Science
    Authored by: javanyet on Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 11:21 AM GMT+4
    Sorry, but streets are not for skateboarders. It's not decided by "high traffic" (and who would decide what "high traffic" and "low traffic" is?), they are not supposed to be boarding in the street, period. As has been noted here before most skateboarders are easy to get along with. It's the minority who are giving them a bad name, like the two idiots I saw one night dodging back and forth between traffic across the intersection of Main and Flat street.

    I'm not clear on why some believe that the town should provide space for skateboarders. Just because you want something doesn't mean the world is required to provide it for you. It's a shame they don't have their own space but that's life. Maybe you just have to wait for it, which is not the end of the world.

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    It Is Not about Skateboarding
    Authored by: pjmelton on Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 11:56 AM GMT+4
    I don't think this post is about skateboarding. It's about loitering. If you read the public comment section in the Selectboard notes a few posts down, it will be more clear what this is responding to. Kids being told you're not allowed to sit on a bench downtown without getting a ticket.

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    It Is about Loitering
    Authored by: sender on Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 03:54 PM GMT+4
    My comment was about loitering.As to skateboarding, it is obvious that a certain portion of our community like to skateboard, so a safe and viable place should be set up for skateboarders. Maybe the parking area in front of the Home Depot.
    As to loitering, ever since Jane Jacobs wrote her amazing book, it has been obvious that healthy downtowns are made up of mixed uses and mixed populations. Same for housing areas. Again, it is not rocket science.
    Scapegoating our children and creating a shopper only downtown is not only bad public policy, but ultimately futile. Unleashing the police to hassle an entire demographic group is illegal, unAmerican, and will cost the Town ( or its insurance group) lots of money. Worse, it teaches our children a real, real, real bad lesson about misuse of governmental power.
    It Is about Loitering
    Authored by: annikee on Thursday, July 09 2009 @ 08:10 PM GMT+4
    Go sender! Excellent points well taken. The Police State that is emerging here is appalling.

    How about requiring that offenders of common decency be mandated to classes instructing them how to behave? This arresting & fining nonsense and totaltarian approach is all bad and idiotic at best. Some people were raised without manners, and that seems to be the gripe of the shopowners. A couple of friends were here with me today and that seems also the complaint- no manners. If the parents aren't willing to teach manners, it becomes our collective problem. So teach kids how to behave! Arrest the rowdy drunks and the drug dealers. Why aren't they arresting drug dealers? I do call the cops when blatant antisocial crap is going on. If I, who rarely even leaves their abode anymore, know the diff, why don't the cops? Seems they take the easy route- teens whose parents cough up the dough. NOT THE THING TO DO.

    ARREST THE DRUG DEALERS.

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