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    Mugging on Flat St.    
    Friday, January 22 2010 @ 02:58 PM GMT+4
    Contributed by: marigold

    Town NewsI have just heard there was an employee of the Latchis who was thrown to the ground and had her purse stolen last night in the Latchis parking lot, around 9 pm.

    I was told the police were called, and the victim was hurt but OK. This is the second report I have heard like this recently, same place, about the same time at night.

     

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    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: Floyd on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 03:49 PM GMT+4

    We were discussing this last night.

    There have apparently been several similar incidents
    where someone was struck one or more time and
    then had their money/wallet taken. There was
    another on S. Main recently as well.

    Folks should strongly consider leaving restaurants
    and pubs with friends and walking each other home,
    sharing rides etc.

    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: pjmelton on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 05:35 PM GMT+4
    Here is a link to the Reformer story on the incident. They do not mention her being a Latchis employee, so I'd say that's unconfirmed, although her car was in the Latchis parking lot while she was bowling, so that would make more sense. She suffered a concussion, and the hooded mugger has not been identified.

    http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_14240855

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    "Economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings." -- FDR

    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: Floyd on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 07:12 PM GMT+4

    I was actually referring to a different mugging that happened in the same area to a different person than is described in the Reformer.

    So there were at least 2 different muggings in that same area recently.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: pjmelton on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 07:36 PM GMT+4
    Yes, I posted the Reformer link because the original story is categorized under "Rumors." I thought if people hadn't seen the article they would want to know that it had been upgraded from rumors to facts.

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    "Economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings." -- FDR
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 07:39 PM GMT+4
    So that's 3 muggings recently? Jesus Christ!

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    Freedom and fear are natural enemies.

    If you've a bed, closet & fridge, you're richer than 75% of the people alive.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: mr.mike on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:01 PM GMT+4
    Wow, things are getting way out of hand. Karl Marx!!!!

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    The four boxes that ensure liberty.
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    Ballot Box
    Jury Box
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    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:20 PM GMT+4
    I'm surprised to see you think of Marx as a god to blaspheme, comrade!

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    Freedom and fear are natural enemies.

    If you've a bed, closet & fridge, you're richer than 75% of the people alive.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: mr.mike on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:23 PM GMT+4
    I don't, but since you'll not show respect for my saviour than neither shall I for yours.

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    The four boxes that ensure liberty.
    Soap Box
    Ballot Box
    Jury Box
    Ammo Box
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:27 PM GMT+4
    Actually, Jesus is just all right by me, showing how little you know of me. Karl Marx was an asshole with some partially good ideas. Try again. But keep presuming. It shows how little thought you put into things.

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    Freedom and fear are natural enemies.

    If you've a bed, closet & fridge, you're richer than 75% of the people alive.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: mr.mike on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:39 PM GMT+4
    Oh yes, that's right he didn't quite get it right did he. Communism that is, We'll get it right though won't we.

    Back to the topic. Thank goodness for the 2nd amendment here in Vermont. About the one last freedom we have, for now. I'd bet that mugger would think twice if he saw someone rightfully excercising open carry.

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    The four boxes that ensure liberty.
    Soap Box
    Ballot Box
    Jury Box
    Ammo Box
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:43 PM GMT+4
    No, mikey, Jesus had it right- he was the original Communist, and nobody's put than him. In 2,000 years. I'm with Jesus' communism. Love your neighbor as your brother. Thou shalt not kill. What thou does to the least of my brothers, thou does to me. That's the Christian I am.

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    Freedom and fear are natural enemies.

    If you've a bed, closet & fridge, you're richer than 75% of the people alive.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: annikee on Friday, January 22 2010 @ 11:45 PM GMT+4
    ...should be "nobody's put it better " than him..

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    Freedom and fear are natural enemies.

    If you've a bed, closet & fridge, you're richer than 75% of the people alive.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: sebatini on Saturday, January 23 2010 @ 07:53 AM GMT+4
    oh thank you, thank you.......someone else who believes we should all be more self-reliant. Self-defense would be in that catagory. Our government is failing us, (or perhaps trying to overtake us) by not providing appropriate protection. I stress appropriate. I have worked many a late nights at my store as any dedicated business owner has done and over the course of say the last 6 months I have been pulled over 12 times leaving for home late at night after work. For what you ask? Was it my CT license plate? No. Couldn't be! I was wearing my seat belt....for sure it wasn't that. Guess what it was every time....I had a scented pine tree hanging on my rear view mirror. Our paid protectors where out not scouring the area for the punks that have not only attacked our population but broken into many businesses including my own but they where giving people like me that oh so nessecary pine tree warning and then letting me go with no ticket. I have gotton so desperate I am tempted to write a message on my rear window asking them not to pull me over just because I have a CT plate (perhaps that is the real reason). I have obviously learned not to leave that pine tree there but I honestly thought the first few times where a fluke. I didn't think I would keep getting pulled over for that same thing as if the cops didn't have better things to do. Surveying the pubic streets for crimes is one thing I can think of that is a much better use of their time than a pine tree.

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    "The-Out-Of-Towner" (Brattleboro's given name to me)
    Search & Seizure on Flat St.
    Authored by: pjmelton on Saturday, January 23 2010 @ 08:55 PM GMT+4
    Is it always the same person who pulls you over?

    What do you mean about the pine tree? Does that have some significance?

    If I were to hazard a guess, I would say you are being pulled over frequently either 1) because you are tired and driving too slowly or 2) because the cops know which business you own. (Am I misremembering, or do you own The Underground?) In the second case, it is unfair and discriminatory, and I would consider lodging a formal complaint. Pulling you over because of who you are rather than what you are doing is not acceptable.

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    "Economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings." -- FDR
    Search
    Authored by: NorahCook on Sunday, January 24 2010 @ 04:39 PM GMT+4
    In Vermont, it's against the law to have objects dangling from the rear-
    view mirror. I've been warned about this, as well -- so I extended the
    cord so the objects swing below the dashboard surface. I like my little
    pine-scented object with a saying from Yogi Berra, "If you don't know
    where you're going, you might not get there."

    So that's the excuse why they're pulling you over--but maybe other
    circumstances as well?
    Search
    Authored by: sebatini on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 02:58 PM GMT+4
    I am amazed at how many have missed the point. Be sure you are certain before casting the first stone........First off, did I mention my father is a New York City Fireman and I have dinner with police officers on a regular basis so I am very familiar with procedure and non-procedure............as for the officers that pulled me over, almost everytime it has been a different officer........I go to a car detailer that puts a new air freshener in my car as a finishing touch and I just forget to remove it everytime.......I do not drive slow from being tired that is not what I am pulled over for.........oh yeah, didn't you read before, I AM FROM CONNECTICUT. The reason I know that me getting pulled over all the time is a waste of taxpayer money is an officer told me why he really pulled me over. After a few times of being pulled over I actually got mad and when the officer walked up to my window I started yelling at him explaining that I was tired of this. He was so intimidated by my reaction he said he had never pulled me over before but he did pull me over in truth because I had an out of state license plate and was driving late at night. Thats it. No other reason. The pine tree was an excuse. A loophole in the laws that allowed him to check me out and make sure I wasn't a trouble maker yet at the same time violating my rights and wasting taxpayer money at the same time. Everytime I tell an officer I own a store in town they have this look of surprise on their face as if it couldn't be true. Now tell that to all the people who have been mugged or rapped or families of the murdered in brattleboro and see what they think. I don't even feel safe leaving my store at night and have been harrassed by punk kids. The police are never to found then. Probably pulling someone over for a pine tree on their mirror since thats so much more important and dangerous than a mugging, rape, or murder!!!!!!

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    "The-Out-Of-Towner" (Brattleboro's given name to me)
    Search
    Authored by: pjmelton on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 03:07 PM GMT+4
    Who is casting stones? I think you need to chill.

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    "Economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings." -- FDR
    Search
    Authored by: SpudHill on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 03:53 PM GMT+4
    Well now I'm just dying to know what downtown business you own...care to share?
    Questions for Sebatini
    Authored by: mr.mike on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 01:24 AM GMT+4
    Sebatini. you say you own a store in Brattleboro and you've been stopped by a different cop for an air freshener hanging from your mirror. You claim they are stopping you because you have a Connecticut plate on your car and it's late at night.

    Are you driving back to Connecticut every night?

    If not how long have you lived in Vermont?

    Because what I see for a potential infraction is that you've lived in Vermont for more than 6 months and are claiming residence in Connecticut. Big no no. The commiczar does not like that. They should be telling you, if they've stopped you more than once in six months, that you need to bleep or get off the pot. Either live here or don't. And I can't believe you'd be doing the tax saving thing. Last I knew Connecticut was a sister to Vermont in tax burden. You need to put N.H. plates on for a real savings.

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    The four boxes that ensure liberty.
    Soap Box
    Ballot Box
    Jury Box
    Ammo Box
    Questions for Sebatini
    Authored by: sebatini on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 05:01 PM GMT+4
    For your information, I own several stores. My legal residence is in Connecticut. I live and own a home in CT. I own a store in VT and 2 in CT. Registering my car in VT would be illegal. I stay at a hotel when I come up here every week to visit my store. Since I am only here a few days a week, I work till late at night in order to accomplish my obligations. I am a hard worker, not an illegitimate citizen of the state but if I am considered the bad guy than it is easy enough for me to take my store, customers and the taxes I pay to support the town with me. I have made the mistake of thinking that in VT people really believed in truth and justice, even if its our own government on trial. I have found out that its just like everywhere else.....just sheep following the sheepherders.

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    "The-Out-Of-Towner" (Brattleboro's given name to me)
    Questions for Sebatini
    Authored by: pjmelton on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 05:36 PM GMT+4
    If the pine tree is illegal, my suggestion to you is to remove it from your mirror. My suggestion that you chill also stands. No one here was trying to make enemies with you, but you seem to take everything we say as a criticism. Frankly, I would be afraid to walk into your store for fear you might shout at me for some imagined infraction that no one else would understand.

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    "Economic laws are not made by nature. They are made by human beings." -- FDR
    Questions for Sebatini
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 06:47 PM GMT+4
    It's absurd. The locals think the cops pick on them, tourists think the cops pick on them, and now business owners with out-of-state plates think the cops are picking on them.

    The reality is that Brattleboro is about 200 yards from New Hampshire and 10 miles from Massachussets, and on more than one major tourist route - out-of-state plates, including Connecticut plates, don't even perk up cops' interest here.

    I guess if I owned a business in Bratt and was having this "problem," I'd go have a chat with the police chief and try to ascertain if I was being harassed for some reason, or if the local cops really have a concern with my air freshner.

    I happen to remember one of the locals complaining about getting pulled over for having their high school mortarboard tassel hanging off their rear view mirror, so I think Sebatani is feeling a bit paranoid and trying to claim local bias instead of blaming himself/herself for not having the sense to remove the dangly thing from the rear view mirror. I mean, it's a stupid thing to pull someone over for, but how many times does it take before you learn?

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    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: javanyet on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 12:22 AM GMT+4
    It's illegal to have anything hanging from your rearview.

    Perhaps the relevant question is why you insist on keeping it there knowing you'll be pulled over? If you really are concerned about how the police spend their time try avoiding being pulled over by not doing what you know will make it happen. You seem "desperate enough" to do anything but that.

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    "No guts, no glory."
    Bette Davis
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: NorahCook on Sunday, January 24 2010 @ 03:25 PM GMT+4
    I know of two incidences--the first attempted purse-snatching
    happened to my friend, also a woman of not-exactly-young years, but
    she clung onto the strap of her purse and yelled and the black-
    sweatshirt-hooded young white man (who uses the hood to keep his
    face unrecognizable) gave up and ran away. It happened in the
    parking lot across from the Transportation Center, and he ran away
    over the bridge toward the Coop parking lot, so this is all exactly the
    same MO.

    Maybe she was able to hang on and fight back because she plays
    hockey. I'd recommend keeping fit and alert over carrying a gun, any
    day.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: GSamson on Saturday, January 23 2010 @ 01:50 PM GMT+4
    Please do tell us, Mike, what disrespect have people here shown for "your
    savior".


    _

    "if you cut out all the passages in the Bible where Jesus talks about the
    poor, about helping out the least among us, you'd have the perfect
    container to smuggle Rush Limbaugh's drugs in."
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: javanyet on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 12:24 AM GMT+4
    I think we've all noticed that no matter what the story is, even about the mugging of a woman, mr. mike finds a way to make it all about him.

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    "No guts, no glory."
    Bette Davis
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: javanyet on Saturday, January 23 2010 @ 05:38 AM GMT+4
    Since she wasn't i.d.'d in the paper I won't do it here but I'll say she's a friend of mine I've known for years. She'd give you the shirt off her back and iron it first... trust me there are people looking for the scumbag that did this and he won't get away with it. I don't mean vigilantes, I mean they'll turn him in.


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    "No guts, no glory."
    Bette Davis
    Community Response
    Authored by: Dfk-b on Sunday, January 24 2010 @ 03:26 AM GMT+4
    I wonder if some kind of community response, in line with a Take Back the Night rally, would be helpful?
    Community Response
    Authored by: NorahCook on Sunday, January 24 2010 @ 03:30 PM GMT+4
    "Take Back the Night" would be an excellent idea, partly because this
    is clearly an attacker who targets middle-aged women (see my
    comment above, the MO is identical).

    Flat Street is vulnerable... why? Is it because there are few
    residences, and it's a blind spot protected by a hulk of a parking
    garage and other blank windows? A presence on the street would help.
    Recall that the murder last year was the result of an altercation that
    began at the Transportation Center... and that racial insults have been
    hurled at that spot, targeting young girls walking from the Boys and
    Girls Club... seems like a prime spot for police presence, and if they
    don't have the manpower, than Neighborhood Watch folks.
    Community Response
    Authored by: javanyet on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 12:15 AM GMT+4
    There is actually a very good police presence in that area (Flat St) at night especially. I worked for many years at night in that neighborhood and saw them.

    But it would probably be a good idea to have someone at the garage 24/7 as there has been so much trouble there, and not just late at night!

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    "No guts, no glory."
    Bette Davis
    Community Response
    Authored by: spinoza on Tuesday, January 26 2010 @ 12:58 AM GMT+4
    Maybe when the snow melts we can deputize the skateboarders rather than criminalize them, and they can patrol Flat Street on their boards. The added eyes and energy would go a long way towards reclaiming that spot for everyone.
    Community Response
    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 06:30 PM GMT+4
    That's a great idea.
    Community Response
    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, January 27 2010 @ 10:23 PM GMT+4
    There was a good outcome of the Harmony Sitout Nights. We made a presence which made the police more alert, which led to a better sitch.

    It also worked in Hell's Kitchen during the crack days. But when we got it cleaner, Disney came.
    Mugging on Flat St.
    Authored by: Floyd on Wednesday, March 17 2010 @ 11:47 AM GMT+4

    There has been an arrest and charge for the
    mugging.

    http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_14690690

    A Hinsdale, N.H., man accused of mugging a woman
    on Flat Street in Brattleboro was arraigned in
    Windham District Court on Tuesday on charges of
    assault and robbery and credit card fraud.
    Kendall R. Lucy III, 27, pleaded not guilty to both
    charges and Judge Karen Carroll set bail at $5,000.
    Lucy allegedly robbed a 59-year-old woman while she
    was walking home around 9 p.m. on Jan. 20.

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