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Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 02:31 AM GMT+4
Contributed by: louc

RumorsI just read a rumor that an international supermarket chain wants to move into the Kipling Cinema building.

Does anyone have any information about this?

 

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    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: joebob on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 03:22 AM GMT+4
    from the 2/22/12 Brattleboro Development Review Board
    agenda-

    Royal Square, LLC; Planned Unit Development; request for
    Site Plan Approval to demolish an existing cinema building,
    construct a 16,476 sq. ft. building with canopy and make site
    changes to parking, circulation and landscaping; Waiver of
    Dimensional Standards approval to locate parking within 25
    feet of the front yard boundary at 762 Putney Road; Tax Map
    Parcel #70539.000
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: louc on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 04:06 AM GMT+4
    Thanks joebob, that was quick! I wonder which chain it will be? Could
    be Stop & Shop or Shaw's, but there are so many markets owned by
    international conglomerates these days that it's hard to tell.


    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: joebob on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 09:38 AM GMT+4
    http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_19907891

    from todays Reformer-

    "An international supermarket chain wants to tear down
    the former Kipling Cinema and put up a new 16,000-
    square-foot food store on the Putney Road site.

    Aldi discount grocers, which is based in Germany and has
    more than 3,000 stores across Europe and Australia and
    more than 1,000 stores in 31 states in the United States,
    presented an application to the Brattleboro Planning
    Department to demolish the former cinema and construct
    a new food market."

    "The plans for the proposed Brattleboro store show about
    9,600-square- feet of retail space, including meat, produce
    and frozen sections.

    The total cost of the project is estimated at $1.2 million.

    Persohn said the company was still in negotiations over
    the Brattleboro land and he could not give details on when
    work might start or when the store would open.

    The Kipling Cinema abruptly closed in March 2011, and the
    building has been vacant ever since."
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: joebob on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 09:40 AM GMT+4
    The Aldi Experience
    Authored by: KAP on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 10:29 AM GMT+4
    Aldi is a European discount grocer. They've opened quite a few new locations in New England in the past few years. If they open at the cinema location, you'll find their prices will be slightly better than nearby Hannaford up the road, but you won't find nearly as much selection.

    If you've never been to an Aldi before, here's a walk-through of the one in Worcester, MA:
    http://nicolecommawoo.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/the-aldi-experience/
    on the other hand . . .
    Authored by: KAP on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 10:36 AM GMT+4
    If you're willing to travel a bit further afield for grocery bargains, "The Barn" in Greenfield has better prices/selection than Aldi:
    http://nicolecommawoo.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/cww-the-barn/
    The Aldi Experience
    Authored by: KAlden on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 12:35 PM GMT+4
    This seems like a terrible plan. Do we need another supermarket-especially one that doesn't have much variety and seems to be a 'discount" store in all ways but prices? I would love to see a Trader Joe's come to Brattleboro but as far as a second rate supermarket that few people have ever heard of..I don't think this will be an asset to Brattleboro.
    I have friends who live in Worcester and they have nothing good to say about Aldi -crowded; less than great produce; average prices and very little variety.
    The Aldi Experience
    Authored by: vtjasper68 on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 02:01 PM GMT+4
    Did you know that Trader Joe's was started by Aldi & now is a separate company still controlled by the Aldi family?
    The Aldi Experience
    Authored by: KAlden on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 04:13 PM GMT+4
    I didn't know that. I'm surprised to hear it.Trader Joe's seems to offer a much better quality and certainly more variety than the regular Aldi's stores (from what I hear-I confess to having no first hand knowledge about Aldi's) The only thing I missed when I moved to Vermont from Boston was my local Trader Joe's store. Just not convinced that a grocery store that carries mostly it's own brand-which few people have even heard of-is any great addition to the town.
    Trader Joe's
    Authored by: Ruthie on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 11:16 PM GMT+4
    Please, pretty please, let it be a Trader Joe's!
    Trader Joe's
    Authored by: BrandieStarr on Wednesday, February 08 2012 @ 01:38 PM GMT+4
    OOh I would LOVE a Trader Joe's. I wish we had a say/vote on what we wanted to do with the building.
    Trader Joe's is in your rearview mirror!
    Authored by: tiny on Friday, February 10 2012 @ 03:02 AM GMT+4
    Trader Joes will never come to Bratt for the same reason it
    doesn't come to my town, too small and too poor. Thats why
    Bratt gets a Dollar General and not a Nordstrom.
    And if you want a say as to what happens to the building,
    then buy it.
    Why don't you buy it?
    Authored by: Floyd on Friday, February 10 2012 @ 07:21 PM GMT+4

    A friend of mine did recently inquire to the building
    owners about
    trying to reopen a theater there. They were already in
    negotiations with a "national chain" about the
    theater,
    but they did offer to sell the entire plaza to him. That
    would include the buildings that house Staples, 2
    restaurants and the clothing store among others.
    That
    was a bit more than he had in mind.
    Why don't you buy it?
    Authored by: tiny on Saturday, February 11 2012 @ 12:16 AM GMT+4
    That's way real estate business works. When I put a down
    payment on my home, the realtor continue to peddle it
    because that is what they do and it was neither illegal or
    unethical, but considered good business practice. I thought
    it was just a way to squeeze me for more dough.

    I don't know what you mean by "national chain," whether
    it was a theater chain or was it the supermarket which
    certainly is a national chain. I guess one could assume
    that the "national chain" had a binding agreement that
    could only be trumped if the entire plaza was sold. Or
    maybe they didn't think your friend was viable, but I
    admit, I am just guessing.

    Trader Joe's
    Authored by: rootrunner on Thursday, January 17 2013 @ 09:18 AM GMT+4
    Why is trader joes such a pleasure to shop at? Is it the welcoming bouquet of flowers that greet you at the door reminding you to stop and smell the flowers and earthy, farmstand smell of the store?, mounds of fresh local produce in tip top condition at reasonable special prices or the fact that the vast majority of items range from 2.49 to more or less 5.49 which says buy me, with little to grimace about. I love the trader joes seasonal features and everything else especially the vibe from workers there in Hadley. My shopping experience always seems to end too early there strolling the isles seeing what I may have missed for new and unique products and sampling this and that at the give away counter with complimentary coffee shot, but love stocking up every once in a great while, it's a long haul and reserved for that special outing.

    The only thing I don't care for is the meat department although I had a great Kosher Turkey from there once.
    Trader Joe's
    Authored by: rootrunner on Thursday, January 17 2013 @ 09:57 AM GMT+4
    The Cashier at Trader Joe's told me that the entire state of Vermont has put up overwhelming resistance to any possibility of one of their stores existing in Vermont (I see Vermont plates in parking lot shopping there in Hadley all the time ), they tried Burlington and failed, is this good business practice or unfounded protectionism steering them away, is that working, maybe, but at what longterm consequences? Will NH next door be more inviting once again?
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: cgrotke on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 02:12 PM GMT+4
    They should leave the inside as is and have the first
    supermarket with a snack bar and multiple screens.

    .... Vegies, theater 2, with screenings of Annie Hall

    .... Meat, theater 3, with showings of Star Wars the
    Phantom Menace.

    .....

    My first real reaction is "another supermarket? Why?" It's
    not making much sense unless this new store is following
    the Walmart grocery stores around and nipping at them
    wherever they open.

    I'm amazed the math works out, customer-wise.

    That said, having something in the empty space is
    encouraging, and hopefully they'll find a niche that
    supports what we already have. Trader Joes-type frozen
    and discount food may just be that.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 04:45 PM GMT+4
    Sometimes I go to the Aldi in Bennington to pick up a couple of things. You might go to Aldi to supplement your regular grocery buying, but you'll never do all of your grocery shopping there. You'll find a lot of brands you never heard of before, fruit and produce that's on the verge of being over-ripe, frozen meats and prepared dishes from companies you've never heard of before.

    I used to shop in Aldi stores in Germany. The Aldi stores here look the same, but the quality isn't the same.

    I like the "scratch and dent" grocery place in West Bratt, and there's another one in Bennington. I don't buy a lot there, but every once in a while they get in some of my favorite foreign foods that you just can't get otherwise.

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    "Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, February 07 2012 @ 05:32 PM GMT+4
    I'm just sad we're losing the Kipling.

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    veritas fortis vocat
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: javanyet on Saturday, January 19 2013 @ 04:45 AM GMT+4
    The Kipling has been closed for some time now. There was never a chance that it would re open, as the owner, a chain based in Boston, knew it was losing money hand over fist. The employee who said he'd re open apparently had no resources to do so. Unfortunately, that is why any commercial business exists, to make money. When they do not, they close.

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    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: Wantastiquet on Wednesday, February 08 2012 @ 12:23 AM GMT+4
    Another supermarket? I was hoping for a tattoo mall.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: javanyet on Wednesday, February 08 2012 @ 11:44 AM GMT+4
    Someone I saw downtown (who shall remain anonymous) managed to misunderstand/misread this story into the "outrageous news" that Ming was selling the Putney General Store! Not fully awake that morning, I guess. :)

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    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: whyknot on Wednesday, February 08 2012 @ 05:06 PM GMT+4
    Aldi's expansion plan, as I read in an " Industry"
    magizine called Private Labeling. no joke. is to build
    wherever there is a SuperWalmart nearby. So it goes.
    Aldi's is oddly interesting in its selection, have been to
    Bennington and Ohio locations. Trader Joes opens in
    clusters based on their need for every day massive fresh
    deliveries, prepared food, bread, produce. The just are
    opening one in Portsmouth NH. I think they want more
    $$ per hour open than the population of Bboro can
    support.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: Azrael on Friday, February 10 2012 @ 12:37 AM GMT+4
    Not impressed, there's got to be a better idea for that building. I wont bother shopping at this place.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 05:53 PM GMT+4
    News about Aldi's & Tesco's beefburgers in today's Guardian UK:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/15/horse-dna-found-supermarket-beefburgers

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    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: cgrotke on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 06:20 PM GMT+4
    They've done nothing at the movie theater location. I'm
    doubting this is still a project in town at this point.

    Mmm. Horse!
    Aldi on the Way
    Authored by: Floyd on Friday, January 18 2013 @ 04:47 PM GMT+4

    There was an update in the paper not too long ago.
    There was/is some planning or zoning delay associated
    with the proposed entrance and parking I believe.
    They still plant o demolish the building before too long.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 06:56 PM GMT+4
    Beshbarmak!

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    Capitalism: The world's largest pyramid scheme
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 07:01 PM GMT+4
    Or Dothraki!

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    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
    New Socialists in Town?
    Authored by: mr.mike on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 08:42 PM GMT+4
    If it's a grocery store from Europe I would imagine everyone on ibratt would be falling over themselves to welcome it here.

    What international brotherhood will be representing the workers at this store?

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    Socialism... Ideas so good that they have to be mandatory.
    New to Humor?
    Authored by: annikee on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 09:08 PM GMT+4
    Keep trying Mikey, I'm sure some day you'll be funny. Don't give up!

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    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
    New Socialists in Town?
    Authored by: AEames on Wednesday, January 16 2013 @ 09:34 PM GMT+4
    Actually, mike, take another look, you'll love this: In an
    effort to minimize employees and wages, you pay a
    quarter to use their cart, load your own bags, check
    yourself out and don't get a wide selection of food.

    Luckily, no dirty local commies will get in the way of this
    impressive new rugged individualist "Right-Out-Of-Town"
    money pipeline.
    New Socialists in Town?
    Authored by: AEames on Wednesday, January 16 2013 @ 09:42 PM GMT+4
    No credit cards, either! But EBT is just fine. Are they still
    capitalist heroes?
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: Maus Anon E on Tuesday, January 15 2013 @ 11:37 PM GMT+4
    By coincidence, it was exactly a year ago today that I ate beshbarmak
    (horse meat stew) and drank kumys (fermented mare's milk) in a
    restauraunt on the ancient Silk Road. It was quite... horsey.

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    Capitalism: The world's largest pyramid scheme
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, January 16 2013 @ 12:12 AM GMT+4
    I'm thinking horse doesn't taste like chicken.

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    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: spoon on Wednesday, January 16 2013 @ 09:56 AM GMT+4
    I can't imagine, considering the quality of cows shoveled
    into US fast food burgers, that a few old horses would be bad
    or even noticeable (without doing DNA tests) in Euro burgers.
    I have this recollection that meat is generally very expensive
    in Europe. Just like Americans are eating a lot more of what
    used to be called "junk fish" the Euros are willing to adapt
    their diet to what is available and affordable.
    The problem may merely be a matter of labeling. They
    should take a page out of our book and call their own stuff
    "variety" meats.

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    spoon agave
    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: annikee on Wednesday, January 16 2013 @ 02:29 PM GMT+4
    Inevitably, the jokes:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2013/jan/16/horsemeat-burgers-best-worst-jokes

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    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: javanyet on Saturday, January 19 2013 @ 04:37 AM GMT+4
    There has been information in many local news outlets for many
    months.

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    New Supermarket in Town?
    Authored by: javanyet on Saturday, January 19 2013 @ 04:42 AM GMT+4
    Cue the protesters! LOL it really is so predictable... the same
    people who raged at the Family Dollar on Putney Rd complained
    when there was a (false) rumor that it would close. Likewise the
    Mr G's, which now has re-opened. The discount market planned
    for the former Kipling site is getting the same treatment as the
    raged-against Ames that engendered wails of despair when it
    closed. Businesses open and close, people, it works like that in
    the real world. Neither opening nor closing is a harbinger of the
    apocalypse. Really. Unless of course you prefer empty buildings
    and tax losses.

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