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Thursday, February 07 2013 @ 10:02 PM GMT+4
Contributed by: paulgardner

HistoryIn all the stuff I'd ever been told about Rudyard Kipling and his years in nearby Dummerston at his home, Naulakha, I don't think I ever heard that Arthur Conan Doyle came here to southern Vermont to visit.

According to VPR commentator Stephie Greene Doyle and Kipling were friends. When Doyle came he brought Nordic skis and the two of them practiced on the lawn below Naulakha.

They also played golf in the snow with red balls and tin cans in the snow.

Seems Kipling knew how to enjoy winter.


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    Conan Doyle Slept Here!
    Authored by: tomaidh on Thursday, February 07 2013 @ 11:42 PM GMT+4
    This says it all (From Stevie's report:)
    Instinctively Kipling knew that you must play in snow to get through winter happily.
    Conan Doyle Slept Here!
    Authored by: Rolf on Friday, February 08 2013 @ 01:54 AM GMT+4

    What year did Conan Doyle come to town?

    I ask because Conan Doyle was pretty willdly
    indiscriminate in his support of psychics. He was
    fooled by the Cottingley fairy photographs, among
    other tom fooleries, and he supported T. P. James'
    claims to be the spirit pen of Dickens. T. P. James
    was in Brattleboro in the 1870's and published The
    Summerland Messenger, a journal of Theosophical
    ideas, ideas which Doyle was interested in.

    So, do we have a date of Conan Doyle's arrival in
    Brattleboro? It would be great to know.

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    Conan Doyle Slept Here!
    Authored by: paulgardner on Friday, February 08 2013 @ 07:11 AM GMT+4
    The house was finished in 1892 - so some time after that.
    Conan Doyle Slept Here!
    Authored by: Floyd on Friday, February 08 2013 @ 10:35 AM GMT+4

    I had heard the winter golfing stories and that the
    New Englanders probably found these particular
    Englishmen to be be particularly eccentric.

    Kipling was here for about 4 years so, presumably
    1892-96 would be the window. He wrote several of his
    most notable works while here including The Jungle
    Book and Captains Courageous.

    Conan Doyle Slept Here!
    Authored by: spinoza on Friday, February 08 2013 @ 12:10 PM GMT+4
    The trivia arm of the internet always astounds..A quick search
    tells us that Conan Doyle was here Thanksgiving 1894. He and
    Kipling quibbled..

    These were giants of an earlier and very different time..I've got
    a few thoughts about how they might have dealt with our sick

    More later..
    The Man Who Would be Skiing
    Authored by: spinoza on Saturday, February 09 2013 @ 07:18 PM GMT+4

    Seems apocryphal: a late November storm one hundred and nineteen years ago. Two of
    the world's most influential men, of rockstar magnitude, their reputations made before the
    days of propaganda, wooden planks strapped to their boots, sliding across fields of white
    waves, on Black Mountain Road.

    The skeptical warrior and the mystical doctor. Imperialists both, believers in the exploits
    of Empire. What would they make of the handful of brands that today rule the world.
    Plundering and profiteering for Nation is one thing, but the Corporate Person taking its
    spoils another.

    If I could point the wayback machine to a modern verity, I'd love to hear the sharp minds
    that gave us Holmes and Kim take on this problem.
    The Way Forward & Back Machine!
    Authored by: paulgardner on Saturday, February 09 2013 @ 07:32 PM GMT+4
    If we were to reach back and bring them forward to now would we discover that both men were incredibly egotistical?
    When they got over their shock at the laptop computer, would they then spend days googling themselves?
    The Case of the Hungry Algorithm
    Authored by: spinoza on Saturday, February 09 2013 @ 08:23 PM GMT+4
    Your question is a good indicator of how much has changed in a
    century. At the time of their meeting, Freud hadn't hit the
    scene. Even though the phenomena of an egomaniac was
    known, the term wasn't.

    And for these two writers especially, the concept of 'the search'
    had a far greater meaning.
    The Way Back
    Authored by: annikee on Saturday, February 09 2013 @ 10:25 PM GMT+4
    If brought forward, I think they may have spent a few days taking notes on how history has recorded them (I probably would, too) and then scheduled many many lectures and interviews on all the lies we "know" as truth and what has been since interpolated and misinterpreted that they'd written.

    Due to budget cuts the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
    The Way Back
    Authored by: spinoza on Saturday, February 09 2013 @ 11:08 PM GMT+4
    The critical piece in this anecdotal fantasy for me, despite the differing natures of these two giants, one hard-headed and hell-bent on heroism, the other a hyper-rational spiritualist, both of them abhorred passivity above all else.

    Conan Doyle urges us to observe overlooked patterns and details, to see for ourselves, fusing facts and intuition. Kipling begins his ode to integrity "IF you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too…

    Apathy, and a Gang mentality is what the Corporate plutocrats cultivate in the masses above all else. I've been calling it velvet fascism, (Chris Hedges calls it inverted totalitarianism). It's the choice cuts of advertising blunting our palates, the tasty bait of eternal progress entrapping us to trade our time for money.

    It's a CGI world where imagining is done for us in 3D IMAX. Where the myth of the bottom line supersedes the consequences of our opportunism.

    As men of their time, a time before the earth was assailed, before relativity and widespread electricity, despite their philosophical divergence, I picture Rud and Art looking on in horror at the spectacle of our modernity. And cursing the corner we've painted ourselves into.

    Double Black Diamonds
    Authored by: spinoza on Monday, February 11 2013 @ 04:23 PM GMT+4
    If Arthur and Rudyard were strapped in today, I'd see Conan
    Doyle on shaped skis; a racer's mindset with a freestylist's
    bag of tricks. Kipling would be rocking the top-end Burton

    These were pop figures above all else. Ambitious men who
    indulged their pleasures. Would Arthur not be getting down
    with Downey Jr? Or is it such a reach to think Kipling would
    have oil ships named after him?

    If we can't sidestep the Corporations, and can't subdue them,
    escape seems a tall order. Apparently a man's life is one
    thing and his work another. Nothing is clean or simple.
    by Kipling
    Authored by: spinoza on Monday, February 11 2013 @ 05:11 PM GMT+4
    Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
    Go, bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
    To wait, in heavy harness,
    On fluttered folk and wild—
    Your new-caught sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child...
    —The White Man's Burden