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    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station    
    Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 11:52 AM GMT+4
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    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: pockets on Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 12:05 PM GMT+4
    I see a mic! all i need is a mic
    is the transmitter still there?
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: cgrotke on Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 12:16 PM GMT+4
    To the best of my limited knowledge, no transmitter.

    You could hook up the mic to the amp and speakers and use the 78
    player to broadcast to Main Street out the window... only losing a little of
    the actual operating range. : )
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: Sproutie on Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 12:33 PM GMT+4
    The Brattleboro community radio has already proven itself to not accept actions by the FCC in a horizontal fashion.

    The FCC obviously acted like the desperate, outlaw types they are, by stealing the community's equipment in the early a.m. and having a relatively low-ranking judge from Burlington sign off on it. I hope Judge Murtha, the judge in the local Federal District who was presiding over the pending case, is steamed about being usurped by this. How can the Feds. disrupt a pending case like this?

    We fought the law, and the law fought dirty.

    I think for the new radio station, I'll have a show entirely devoted to FCC watch-doggery.

    Sara Longsmith
    DJ SaraDu




    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: shaw on Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 09:55 PM GMT+4
    hey guys (esp. the Longsmiths)...

    really sorry to hear about this happening (yet yet again).

    Once again, another example of the government acting out corporate selfishness, and not out of public good.

    Keep fighting the good fight...you can't keep good people (or a good radio station) down.
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: doppelganger on Wednesday, June 22 2005 @ 09:59 PM GMT+4
    Hmmmm..........what's that growing aroma?? Is that Fascism I'm smelling?

    How many more overt and mind-numbing instances of "The State" out of control and rapacious do we need? Wars of choice, stolen elections, lies to the People, torture, 300 billion dollars on mass murder...shall I go on?

    Or should I just go back to sleep?

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    Subvert the Dominant Paradigm....and hurry.
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: Deus Ex on Thursday, June 23 2005 @ 08:29 AM GMT+4
    This kind of stuff is just practice, feeling out local communities - watching responses.

    FEMA camps, all across the USA - with room for millions. Modern concentration camps if you will.

    Like a frog in water we wait, they are being smart enough to turn up the temps slowly so we stay swimming around.
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: ZAM on Thursday, June 23 2005 @ 12:35 PM GMT+4
    Jeez, who did they use to confiscate, pinkertons?
    Example of extremism at it's best.
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Thursday, June 23 2005 @ 10:11 PM GMT+4
    <<This kind of stuff is just practice, feeling out local communities - watching responses.>>

    Come on, do you really believe the government (or "the State") is just lying in wait to pounce on it's citizenry just to put them in prison camps? What's the upside for them to do that? They already know our responses before we do. And we sit and offer it up to them on a silver plate by doing just what we are doing and we do it day in and day out. They're not afraid of some tired old "activists" pissing and moaning over them shutting down a rinky-dink local radio station that is not following FCC rules.

    The more freedoms we get, like having access to the internet, being able to "protest" to millions of potential camrades, to say prettymuch whatever we wish (I heard Homey say the "f"-word once); the more likely it is that we will never do anything more than just pound on our computers (or radios in this case).

    <<FEMA camps, all across the USA - with room for millions. Modern concentration camps if you will.>>

    So what are you saying? We're all going to ovens and gas chambers? What will we do with all those millions of radicals in these camps? Will they be treated any worse than common inmates? Why don't we put all our criminals in concentration camps and gas them now? Why do we even spend a dime on their in-room cable tvs and other assorted luxuries and rights? What is the State waiting for?

    <<Like a frog in water we wait, they are being smart enough to turn up the temps slowly so we stay swimming around.>>

    So jump out of the friggin pot already!!! What the Hell are you waiting for??

    ---
    ***VOTE FOR PEDRO***
    Example of extremism at it's best.
    Authored by: Deus Ex on Thursday, June 23 2005 @ 10:23 PM GMT+4
    Jump where you freaking arrogant putz?

    I'm part of America too, born and raised. I'm in local politics, I vote, I pay taxes, and I have every damn right to be afraid and to work for change.

    I know the thought of ''my type'' and my children being crushed under a rightous neocon jackboot brings you joy - but I *am* working to try and stop it. I'm not abandoning ship, so get off it.
    John Duh big poo stink boots:Mr. Dirty boots
    Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 09:25 AM GMT+4
    John Duh big poo stink
    Mr Dirty boots tramples all who are vulnerable
    show some emotion and his high heels come down on you
    his meanness is supposed to be so cool
    his cruel words are supposed to be funny
    gosh how easy it is to hurt someone and wipe your poo dirty boots
    then go off looking for another to squish

    John brighten up
    your meanness is showing

    Ganesha





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    that which is broken is also perfect


     
    Example of extremism at it's best.
    Authored by: doppelganger on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 06:00 PM GMT+4
    Right on, friend.................well said.

    The noose is tightening now................and the country is grinning that creepy grin in front of the TV. And these f*ckers are from a long line of sociopaths who have seemingly always controlled the world's resources, or had plans to do so. The one truth that can't be ignored is that there are way too many humans on this little rock to feed their mouths or keep their children alive. So how does one then take command of such an unruly ship? Not by force (well, a little, here and there), but by deception, and ultimately, the willing participation of the endentured.

    These heartless elitists have been gaining firm foothold since the insurgency of the 60's fizzled out. Granted, Nixon tumbled, but that was his own arrogance. But meanwhile, the creepiest of the creepy gain more and more power (remember George Bush the first was CIA director in the 70's? And imagine! After having supposedly NEVER worked for the CIA. Hell of a resume!). Then Reagan and all that crap...........which ushered in a cultural shift into deeper and more applauded avarice. That's when the "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous" crap all started. Now we all supposedly want to know, daily, what Tom Cruise had for breakfast.

    We've definitely done the Slow Frog...............and some of us have noticed the heat. Some have noticed and shrugged, some have not noticed at all, and some have even noticed and applauded the efforts of the power elite. But I'm still a believer in the kind of America that my dad and my grandparents used to speak of. I'm not talking about the United States of America and it's governmental psychopaths. I mean real Americans, who (after killing the natives) built this country from scratch, and survived coming over Ellis Island, through tuberculosis and the Depression, and World War II. The kind of American who, despite the Happys Days of the 50's, actually helped to create a generation who got out in the streets to tell the powers that be to go f*ck themselves.

    And here we are again. Where is everyone?

    I'm here......you're there.............you're friends and family are right over there..............mine are over here............and they all have friends and family. There are so many more of us than we even know.

    But if something doesn't start to become loud and active soon, we may lose the chance.


    p.s. John Doe guy is not worth a lot of energy. Let him write as he pleases............he only embarasses himself on here.

    ---
    Subvert the Dominant Paradigm....and hurry.
    Action
    Authored by: Deus Ex on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 07:09 PM GMT+4
    Well, JD and his ilk in the community, media and government are at least helping light a fire under us. We may be judgemental sometimes, like anyone, but generally we DO believe in ''live let live''. Also we tend to be individuals, not as good at goosestepping in lockstep as the neocons are - meaning when it comes to organized militaristic minded action - they are better at it.

    But we are stirring, hopefully not too late. Karl Roves recent comments, show that basically they are now arrogant with power - assuming they can now do no wrong. He usually stays in the background, and plays his cards more carefully. But him calling all Democrats basically traitors . . . with Democrats dying in Iraq - seems treasonous in its own right. After 9/11 Democrats and Republicans - and the world were united in wanting to go to Afghanistan and take out Al Quida. Guys like Al Franken were on the radio saying ''we need to support our President in this''. But then these guys frittered that unity away, twisting and using that political ''capital'' for their own agenda.

    And now we are creating terrorists faster than we can kill them.

    If any nation we don't like were doing the kind of stuff, internally within our own boarders, and externally - even the neocons would call them ''fascists'' or ''totalitarians'' or such. But its not facism when WE do it!

    Do these psycho's think ANY of us have anything but the best wishes and hopes for our country and our children?! Its simply that their approach honestly scares the s*it out of us and looks like a big mistake!
    Action
    Authored by: doppelganger on Friday, June 24 2005 @ 10:56 PM GMT+4
    Yup, I agree................the more drunk with power the Righteous Right gets, the more others appear to be waking. Mr. Doe appears to feel more empowered when he antagonizes, even if it's inconsistent or plain illogical. Not quite sure why he and others like him feel so disempowered, but I have theories. Nunna my biz anyhow.

    As to the rest........these kinds of False Power Seekers, so to speak, tend to go just a little further than prudence would dictate. Seems to happen throughout history, so time is often on the side of the masses. Unfortunately, why this needs to happen so cyclically in the first place isn't as examined as one might hope.....but I digress. And, to add to it, we live in precarious enough a time that any cycle of power is multiplied by the "lots and lots and lots of people could die all at once" factor.

    So these guys will continue to get just plain helium-giddy from their perceived victories and dominations. And then they'll either go too far (which, we all know.......they've already done in a gazillion ways) or they'll get tattled on. Somebody out there is probably chewing over in his/her mind whether or not to bring to the light of day some document or tape or something that is irrefutably the "Go To Jail" card for this group. As the tide continues to turn in this country, the courage may become easier to muster for said person. Of course, there are waaaay too many people in positions to expose certain "embarrassments" who seemed to, impulsively, and without hint, kill themselves.

    But I double-digress.............

    In the Western World (let's call it the "Paved Part o' the Planet"), war is all about money.....always has been, probably always will be. But the only way to have one is to convince the masses, who supply their money for the guns and their children for the cannon fodder, that there is a greater ideal at stake. To not act would be a foolish and immoral thing!!! Yada X 3.

    But the more silly-putty-like you can make the (hee hee) "electorate", the easier it is to get them to respond to flags and buzzwords and face-lifted "news" anchors. Everything ever stated as a reason for this war has been shown to be horse dung, and the legal, official reason for war was NEVER regime change or freakin' "liberation/democracy". And I entirely agree with you........substitute the term "democracy" with "communism" or "hinduism" or "jingoism" and Americans would say "Hey! You can't do that! Taking over another sovereign nation to force your political system on them is just freakin' wrong!".

    But, um, I don't hear a lot of that.

    Not dissimilar to Wal-frickin-Mart deciding that your beautiful field where you had your wedding and watched your kids grow up is apparently on land that they need for the new MegaMart. As of yesterday, that kind of corporate rape is OFFICIALLY LAW.....so says the highest court in the land.

    And that there I-rak.........who do they think they are, sitting on our oil like that? Somebody had to do something.

    So...........act we must.........have you seen the posting above this thread?

    Tapping the Power of the Internet for Activism

    A start? A leg up?





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    Subvert the Dominant Paradigm....and hurry.
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: Azrael on Saturday, June 25 2005 @ 09:53 AM GMT+4
    *L* naw it couldn't have been the pinkertons they wouldn't have left that other stuff behind.

    AZ
    Action
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Tuesday, July 12 2005 @ 10:41 PM GMT+4
    You and Deus deserve each other. I can't believe how crazy you two sound while feeding off each other's paranoid, body-snatchers-are-here, frog in boiling water, nonsense.

    I don't think either one of you really said anything coherent the whole time each of you stroked their own ego.

    How dare you talk behind my back. You guys are making me out to be a pariah and it's actually comforting to know I don't think like you guys. It's amazing how lost you two sound without a rational compass like me keeping everyone on track.

    ps

    If anyone is to blame for the state of affairs today it can asuredly be pinned on the counter-culture generation.

    ---
    "I'm looking for the joke with a microscope" Iggy Pop
    Action
    Authored by: ZAM on Tuesday, July 12 2005 @ 11:05 PM GMT+4
    And the fact that you're self-proclaiming yourself "a rational compass" isn't as bad...
    Photos: When the FCC Takes Your Community Station
    Authored by: joblessbiker on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 09:26 AM GMT+4
    hey! I was a pinkerton once at the Northampton fair. I was always fair when taking joints away from teens smoking in back of the trailers! I gave them to all my friends, not the government! what are you implying about the pinkertons?
    Action
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 04:50 PM GMT+4
    Compared to the two of them, yes. I have no political bias to skew my conceptual framework and can tell when someone is leaning too far to one side or the other. Their entire thought process is crippled due to their hatred of the republican party. Neither of them made a cogently coherent argument. Just a lot of lashing out, grouping me with all the other, to use Doppledude's word's, "f*cking sociopaths". Have you noticed Doppledude's amusing little photo of Jr throwing a temper tantrum? It's pretty funny to see, but when you realize the motivation behind it, it all becomes very clear- his and Deus' reasoning is contaminated with utter hatred for anything that is not on their good side.

    They both act like these upstanding concerned citizens, yet appear to me to be burned-out pseudo-activists who have come to the end of their collective wits' ends. It's sort of sad in a way how they've strayed so far from the path. That's where my compass shows more true than both of their's combined. I'm not saying I have the only true compass, but it's certainly in better shape then their's.




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    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
    John Duh big poo stink boots:Mr. Dirty boots
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 04:55 PM GMT+4
    Hey potty mouth, what are you trying to say? I'm not sure what you are replying to.

    ---
    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
    Action
    Authored by: Deus Ex on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 06:53 PM GMT+4
    JD - the ego that gets conveyed along with the content of your rants distorts the message you try to convey.

    But let me try to answer what you've attempted to say:

    >>I have no political bias to skew my conceptual framework and can tell when someone is leaning too far to one side or the other.<<

    Wow! "No political bias", even in the context of just us to - NO political bias is impressive. I don't have a specific analysis of this point, just slack-jawed amazement.

    >>Their entire thought process is crippled due to their hatred of the republican party.<<

    Wow, dude you don't have a clue. Like all humans, there are folks I don't like and do like. And they are on both political sides of the spectrum. And there are specific views either ''side'' have which I disagree with and agree with.

    Most Republicans are NOT Theocratic-Fascist. Some are, and I don't much like them. But weepy new-agers who use a computer to type how much they hate technology, I've little use for them either.

    >>Neither of them made a cogently coherent argument.<<

    Its long been clear that its only ''cogently coherent'' if you agree with it. Start with an opinion, then believe just the fact that support the opinion. The rest is incoherent ''lashing out''. Right?

    >>Just a lot of lashing out, grouping me with all the other, to use Doppledude's word's, "f*cking sociopaths".<<

    No, I've not tried to group you with other such folks. I think your communications make you stand out quite well on your own in this regard.

    Is this just how you act here? In person you are truly a warm, funny and wonderful guy? Ok, I'll spare you the list of human horror shows through history that this was said about by family, friends and themselves.

    >>it all becomes very clear- his and Deus' reasoning is contaminated with utter hatred for anything that is not on their good side.<<

    Your angry words betray that you are reading your own feelings in others actions. I *like* variety in people and their beliefs, politics, strengths and weaknesses. I believe in checks and balances, I WANT people in our government and other places who have different views and experiences than me.

    "Utter hatred'' -- I'm realizing that most of your communications here to folks, accusing them of the most dishonerable intentions, is clearly projection. When somebody is truly paranoid and suspicious, its usually a pretty good sign that you should beware of them. It means they think everybody else is like *they* know they are!

    >>They both act like these upstanding concerned citizens, yet appear to me to be burned-out pseudo-activists who have come to the end of their collective wits' ends.<<

    "Act like''?! Heh, I have kids . . . they are MUCH more important to me than I am to myself. And I want them to live long, full and happy lives. And, I'm a good parent, and an honest and productive business owner and citizen. You accusing me of only ''acting'' like a decent human being is absolute scumbag talk.

    >>It's sort of sad in a way how they've strayed so far from the path. That's where my compass shows more true than both of their's combined. I'm not saying I have the only true compass, but it's certainly in better shape then their's.<<

    Ego, ego, ego.
    Homework
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 10:22 PM GMT+4
    <<JD - the ego that gets conveyed...>>

    I'm happy to know it's comming through loud and clear.

    <<... along with the content of your rants distorts the message you try to convey.>>

    What's my message Deus?

    <<But let me try to answer what you've attempted to say:>>

    Those were replies, not answers. Here's a project I want you to hand in by Monday: go back to your post to DG from June 24 and critque it like you did my last post to Zam. I want you to go over your own words and explain at what point you became rational and presented a cogently coherent argument.

    I'll expect it typed and doublespaced.

    ---
    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
    I am certainly not
    Authored by: George Tirebiter on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 10:25 PM GMT+4
    JD#1 - I think all right-thinking people in this town are sick and tired of
    being told that ordinary decent people are fed up with being sick and tired.
    I am certainly not. And I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.
    Psycho Brain
    Authored by: Deus Ex on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 10:35 PM GMT+4
    You accuse me of only ''acting'' like a decent human being, and now you are setting up tests and challenges for me? Rationalize to yourself why your ego is justified all you want, as always - you truly come across as a selfish and shortsighted being JD.

    So, as our great leader Dick Cheney told Pat Leahey on the hallowed Senate floor . . . "xx xxxx xxxxxxxx" Happy to tell it to your face anytime too stud.

    xxoo
    Example of extremism at it's best.
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 10:51 PM GMT+4
    <<Jump where you freaking arrogant putz?>>

    Hmmmmmmm???? where do I start with that one? You're the one talking about being in pots of boiling water like a bunch of stupid frogs. Maybe if you did "get smart" and jump out, you'd jump into the fire, like in the saying "out of the frying pan and into the fire"? In other words you'd be worse off. Is that why we haven't seen a huge exodus of Americans fleeing to all the other bastions of democracy and opportunity out there, Mr Bigshot Business Owner.

    <<I'm part of America too, born and raised.>>

    And it's system of rules and laws, with all it's pitfalls and imperfections, has created a great nation in which to put down roots and raise your kids, hasn't it?

    << I'm in local politics,>>

    Big deal Mr Bigshot.

    << I vote, >>

    How's that working out for ya?

    <<I pay taxes,>>

    What's your point? Is that partly why you're so angry at the government?

    << and I have every damn right to be afraid and to work for change.>>

    Your motivation is fear? Fear of "neocon jackbooted blah blah blahs taking your kids away and putting everybody in concentration camps"? Is that a rational fear or and irrational one?

    <<I know the thought of ''my type'' and my children being crushed under a rightous neocon jackboot brings you joy>>

    Et Voila! You're wrong, I find no joy in that scenario. You're being irrational.

    << but I *am* working to try and stop it.>>

    "It" hasn't even happened, but do you think you and your ragtag mess of a Democratic party could stop it even if it did?

    << I'm not abandoning ship, so get off it.>>

    The water must not be that hot, yet.

    ---
    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
    I am certainly not
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 10:53 PM GMT+4
    I'm not talking to you, mind your own business.

    :}

    ---
    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
    Psycho Brain
    Authored by: JOHNDOE#1 on Wednesday, July 13 2005 @ 11:07 PM GMT+4
    So you're not going to do the assignment? Ok then, I'll give you a passing grade if you at least go back and read the 6.24.05 post to Doppledude and be honest with yourself- it is nothing but a bunch of jibber-jabber. "Is the nightmare black, or are the windows painted?" Bernie Taupin

    <<you truly come across as a selfish and shortsighted being JD.>>

    That has no impact on me, coming from you. I would expect you to choose that tack at this point. I called you out to critique your own writing and you choose to criticize my ego. Big deal, my ego is whatever you think it is, why won't you go back to your earlier words?

    Well it's getting late, maybe I'll do just that for you tomorrow. You're still getting an "f".

    ---
    "Want it, want it. Can't get it. Got it, got it. Want more." Jimmy Cliff
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  • Brattleboro Weekly Poll
    What are you planning to do this Labor Day Weekend?
    Doing something simple with family
    Taking a road trip
    Flying somewhere
    Shopping to take advantage of Labor Day sales
    Going to a party
    Going to the beach or lake
    I have no plans
    I don't live in the United Sates and don't celebrate Labor Day
    Other
    Results
    71 votes | 7 comments