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  • To comment or not to comment: a wordy meditation

    When a popular idea seems borderline psychotic, or at the least, without scientific basis,

    and, when this idea seems likely to add fear and confusion in a world where there is so much fear and confusion already,

    is it better to be silent, so as to avoid stirring the pot that in which the idea is fermenting ?

    Or is it better to contribute an alternate view, in the hopes it might, in theory, help someone?

    The odds of anyone benefiting from any attempt at commentary online, seem tiny for many reasons, including the fact that one is very unlikely to be the best person in the world to handle the topic. There are plenty of other people who can probably do a better job, no matter what the topic is.

    Silence seems like the best option.

    Why is silence so hard to observe?

    I think that mostly ego is to blame, rather than charity or kindness. That is my best guess. When people know that someone is wrong, they love to be the one to point it out how wrong it is. This probably starts in childhood for most people, and is one of the chief joys of older siblings.

    It is a very human tendency. I’ve jumped at the chance to be correct, many times. Did I HELP ANYONE? I seriously doubt anyone benefited thereby.

    I think people also really enjoy pointing out how mistaken other people are, which is probably the same thing as pleasure in being at least a little bit cruel. After all, if the other person is wrong, utterly wrong, one can easily slip into the pleasure of sarcasm without remorse.

    In reality, being correct does not give us the right to be sarcastic. It just gives us the chance to be informative.

  • Swiss cheese

    After the industrial revolution there’s no question of the extent of harmful impact of human activities on the natural world. However, chemtrails is not one of them. Chemtrails is almost exclusively website and photographic driven and is targeted to believers. Even the Congress, noted for its anti-science positions has never given chemtrails any validity. All chemtrail “evidence” is entirely anecdotal.

    What fascinates me isn’t the science or lack of science behind it, it is the obvious belief behind it, a human condition that reminds me of Swiss cheese. It is a case where in absence of belief, sounder minds must prevail. And, like too many communal beliefs, once acquired, they are difficult, if not impossible, to dislodge.

  • Color clouds

    NASA is launching color “tracer vapors such as barium (green), cupric-oxide (blue-green), and strontium (red) into the Earth’s ionosphere” to help scientists “probe two gaping holes in Earth’s protective magnetic shield, called cusps.”

    For this mission there has been eight launch scrubs because of different adverse atmospheric issues, so I don’t know if the most recent try was successive yesterday, Sunday.

    For an update: http://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-rocket-space-clouds-magnetic-shield-holes-2017-6 or https://www.facebook.com/NASAWFF

    • Launch is Today (Sunday)

      I thought today was Monday. Since I don’t report to work, or something, weekdays and weekends tend to blur, hence, a loss of time. It’s delightful, actually.

      If conditions are suitable NASA will launch circa 9PM tonight. Just think, all that barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium coming down upon us. Aren’t you excited?

    • New article of faith

      I looked a bit into “barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium” but wasn’t overly alarmed. It turns that these elements in various compounds are found naturally in the environment (water and soil), and turn up in food, vitamins, cosmetics, dyes and other manufacturing products. Like most of things in life, high concentrations and large amounts when consumed or breathed in can be harmful to health and higher amounts can be fatal. Nothing new about that.

      However, it is illustrative that the chemtrail believers really have too much time on their hands and should look around for a new article of faith to keep them occupied.

      • barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium

        “barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium are found naturally in the environment, and turn up in food, vitamins, cosmetics, dyes and other manufacturing products.”
        That doesn’t justify injecting them into the atmosphere.

        Fluorine is also found naturally in the environment. That doesn’t mean we need to add it to our water supply. (Brattleboro doesn’t).
        It is widely used in the US, and is totally banned in Europe

        A grand history of releasing stuff into the atmosphere as part of scientific research exists. In the early 1960s our U.S. military dumped 350,000 small copper needles into the ionosphere attempting to create a ‘telecommunications shield.’

        Patent #4,686,605 ‘Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth’s Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere’ states
        “Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.”
        The patent also states, “It has also been proposed to release large clouds of barium in the magnetosphere so that photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interaction.”
        (I don’t even know what that means!)

        These chemical releases are not necessarily chemtrails, but they show our military’s extensive atmospheric chemical release activities.
        Source: http://www.hangthebankers.com/the-haarp-and-chemtrails-connection/

        So-called “Chemtrails” may be pure water, as some claim. They may be something else. The verdict isn’t in.
        .

        • Excitation sister to absurdity

          (I really miss Erik Schmitt on this site.)

          If you say, as you do above, “I don’t even know what that means!” then don’t repeat it, especially if you really don’t understand or cannot articulate the science. In addition to belief-dependency, too many conspiracy “theorists” suffer from ignorance, which of course, ignorance is the foundation of belief.

          The patent you refer to is for a “speculative and unproven device.” That’s what happens to many patents because many never make it to practical applications.

          I have not measured the amounts or concentrations of the barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium NASA wants to use to release into clouds. But I bet they have. So without access to NASAs databases, for argument’s sake let’s say NASA is either intentionally or unintentionally releasing those elements in amounts that makes its way to wholesale plant and animal consumption chains that is harmful to everything, then put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.

          The US has enough destructive nuclear power in its submarine arsenal alone to destroy planetary life as we and all lifeforms know it far beyond repair many times over. (If you include the nuclear arsenal destructive powers of Israel, Great Britain, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, North Korea and other countries, not to mention triggering chain reactions in 449 nuclear reactors worldwide and 60 new nuclear plants under construction) then I’l leave you to worry about a few concentrations of barium, cupric-oxide, and strontium that NASA releases into the atmosphere probe two gaping holes in Earth’s protective magnetic shield.

          • Enlighten me

            Please explain what this means:
            “photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interaction”

            I honestly don’t understand it.

            I included it as an example of “patent gobbledy gook”

            I do not believe it’s a good idea for our government to be playing games with the atmosphere for any reason (Which they are demonstratively doing). I don’t care if they call it “Chemtrails”,weather modification or anything else.

            When the gov’t does something like this, you can bet it’s NOT to benefit the 99%. Somewhere along the line, Corporations are pocketing big bucks.

            And, let’s not bring up Nuclear. That is not, nor ever has been a benefit to mankind. It’s way out of control and needs to be banned, especially with an unpredictable chief executive in power in the USA.
            And an equally unpredictable executive in power in N. Korea.

  • “Playing” with the atmosphere

    The US Gov’t (among others, including Russia, China and even some private entities) has been “playing” with the atmosphere for a very long time. Back in the ‘50s they were “seeding” clouds with dry ice and silver iodide to make it rain. From March 1967 until July 1972, the US military’s Operation Popeye cloud-seeded silver iodide to extend the monsoon season over North Vietnam, specifically the Ho Chi Minh Trail. (apparently some idiots in Washington thought the Ho Chi Minh trail was an actual road.)
    They haven’t stopped yet.
    Some of these “games” we know about, others – not.
    We know they have been experimenting with hurricanes (Project Stormfury). There’s a great conspiracy theory about Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.: It says they deliberately intensified the storm in order to impose Martial Law.

    Cloud seeding has been the focus of many theories based on the belief that governments manipulate the weather in order to control anything from global warming, populations, and military weapons testing, to public health, and flooding.

    We know our government would never do anything like that!
    But if they did, might the visible results of such attempts be interpreted by some as “Chemtrails”?)

  • Solamente el unenlightened juega el tonto

    I was going to take tomaidh’s request seriously to “Enlighten” him and to, as he asks, “Please explain what this means:”photoionization will increase the cold plasma density, thereby producing electron precipitation through enhanced whistler-mode interaction. I honestly don’t understand it.”

    …Until I saw his next (new article) post Tuesday night titled, “Unusual Mummy” ( http://ibrattleboro.com/sections/other/unusual-mummy )

    It’s time for my enjoyment of weekly political cartoons, time that is certainly better spent.

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