What Would Bernie Sanders, Peter Welch & Becca Balint Do If A Vermont Farm Worker Was Sent To Alligator Alcatraz?

In this new YouTube video today, July 12, 2025, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFfACyu4BWY
Florida Congress Members visited Alligator Alcatraz and were allowed only partial access, (but denied full entry and full examination of the facility), but did see that 32 men are put in each cage with barely walking space between bunk beds, there are 3 toilets per cage and drinking water comes from the top of the toilet, so that if 3 men are sitting on the toilets then no one else can get a drink of water, 2 out of 3 toilets at any time can be overflowing with feces on the floor, and the temperatures inside are 83 degrees F and higher, and the meals don’t meet nutritional requirements of human beings, etc. One Florida Congressperson said that there was someone screaming that they were a U.S. Citizen.

Now, what would United States Senator Bernie Sanders, United States Senator Peter Welch and United States Congressperson Becca Balint do if so much as one Vermont illegal migrant or one Vermont farmworker with an out-dated work permit, or one Vermonter who was born in the United States but “looks” like an illegal migrant, was taken by ICE and put into Alligator Alcatraz?

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  • News search on illegal migrant topics

    Here’s an interesting news item for Vermont landlords!
    The state of Vermont passed a new immigrant housing law!

    https://www.vermontpublic.org/local-news/2025-06-12/gov-phil-scott-signs-housing-package-into-law-creating-new-infrastructure-program

    “S.127 also contains new housing protections for immigrants living in Vermont who lack legal status.
    It adds citizenship and immigration status to the list of protected classes in Vermont’s fair housing laws, prohibiting discrimination on those grounds when someone is seeking to rent or buy a home.”

    So, landlords in Vermont can no longer inquire about a person, or a whole entire family’s
    immigration status, legal or not, and YOU are the one violating the Vermont law if you ask!
    You can NOT ask them for a Social Security number for identification, they don’t need one anymore to rent or buy a home in Vermont.

    Hmmm…. wait until all of the immigrant groups across the United States of America start telling all of the illegal migrants they can now legally rent or buy a home in Vermont. Do not doubt that fentanyl dealers $$$ can afford to buy homes. Do not doubt that sellers $$$ of trafficked underage migrant teenage girls can afford to buy homes.

    Well, Vermont legislators have never cared what federal laws are. Many Vermont state cannabis laws seem to be in direct violation of federal laws.

    Google search: “assisting or harboring aliens in entering the country illegally is a federal crime subject to criminal prosecution. Title 8 U.S. Code 1324 details numerous situations where bringing in and harboring aliens (i.e., non-U.S. nationals) violates federal law.”

    What is “harboring aliens”? Is that why the City of Burlington, Vermont suddenly changed their idea about allowing homeless people to park overnight at Perkins Pier?

    Here is an OUTDATED reference to the law, I need to find the current update:
    “Harboring — Subsection 1324(a)(1)(A)(iii) makes it an offense for any person who — knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation.”

    Let’s look at “shields from detection”. Well, now it is a violation of Vermont law to ask a person for a Social Security number when they want to rent or buy a home; so does the Vermont law shield illegal migrants from detection?

    When you voted for so many Democrats to go to Montpelier and impose new laws on Vermonters, did you think you were voting for people who may or may not have received campaign contributions from political action committees which were funded by non-profits which may have been funded by foreign money because non-profits do not have to disclose where their funding comes from?

    I’m in favor of improving immigration laws so people can work in Vermont and live here. I am deeply opposed to Alligator Alcatraz.

    I am not in favor of aiding and abetting foreign drug cartels and human traffickers of underage migrant girls as sex slaves or workers in factories with conditions too dangerous for young teenagers.

    This new Vermont rental law penalizes Vermonters if they refuse to help illegal migrants.

  • https://uscode.house.gov/ here is some current law, 8 USC 1324

    Title 8 United States Code Section 1324§1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
    (a) Criminal penalties
    (1)(A) Any person who-
    (i) knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
    (ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
    (iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
    (iv) encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or
    (v)(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
    (II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
    shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B). … etc.

  • New Vermont Law makes YOU the Criminal if you refuse to rent to illegal migrants!!!!!

    https://legislature.vermont.gov/bill/status/2026/S.127
    BILL AS INTRODUCED AND PASSED BY SENATE AND HOUSE S.127
    2025 Page 67 of 89 …
    Sec. 13. 9 V.S.A. § 4503 is amended to read:
    § 4503. UNFAIR HOUSING PRACTICES
    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person:
    (1) To refuse to sell or rent, or refuse to negotiate for the sale or rental
    of, or otherwise make unavailable or deny, a dwelling or other real estate to
    any person because of the race, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, age,
    marital status, religious creed, color,
    national origin,
    citizenship,
    immigration status,
    or disability of a person, or because a person intends to occupy a
    dwelling with one or more minor children, or because a person is a recipient of
    public assistance, or because a person is a victim of abuse, sexual assault, or
    stalking.

  • Please define: "refuse to negotiate for the sale or rental"

    Question to GROK.com

    Hello Grok! Does this new Vermont Law mean that even though I do not have a rental listed,
    that an illegal migrant could come to me and say I should have a rental listed,
    and would my refusal to discuss renting any part of property I own, be a “refusal” to negotiate?

    https://legislature.vermont.gov/bill/status/2026/S.127
    BILL AS INTRODUCED AND PASSED BY SENATE AND HOUSE S.127
    2025 Page 67 of 89 …
    Sec. 13. 9 V.S.A. § 4503 is amended to read:
    § 4503. UNFAIR HOUSING PRACTICES
    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person:
    (1) To refuse to sell or rent,
    or refuse to
    negotiate
    for the sale or rental
    of, or otherwise make unavailable or deny, a dwelling or other real estate to
    any person because of the race, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, age,
    marital status, religious creed, color,
    national origin,
    citizenship,
    immigration status,
    or disability of a person, or because a person intends to occupy a
    dwelling with one or more minor children, or because a person is a recipient of
    public assistance, or because a person is a victim of abuse, sexual assault, or
    stalking.

    GROK.com says:

    The Vermont law you referenced, S.127, amends 9 V.S.A. § 4503 to expand protections against housing discrimination, including adding “citizenship” and “immigration status” to the list of protected characteristics. This means it is unlawful to refuse to sell, rent, or negotiate for the sale or rental of a dwelling based on someone’s immigration status, among other protected traits.

    To address your specific question: If you own property and do not have a rental listed, the law does not inherently require you to offer your property for rent. The key issue iswhether your actions constitute a “refusal to negotiate” for a rental based on a protected characteristic, such as immigration status. If you are not actively offering or advertising a rental, and someone approaches you to rent a part of your property, your decision not to engage in discussions would generally not be considered a “refusal to negotiate” under the law, provided your decision is not motivated by the person’s protected characteristics (e.g., their immigration status).

    However, if you were to refuse to discuss renting because of the person’s immigration status (or any other protected characteristic), that could potentially be interpreted as discriminatory under the amended law. The law applies to situations where a dwelling is being offered or made available for rent or sale, and the refusal is based on a protected trait. If you’re not offering the property for rent at all, and your refusal to discuss is unrelated to the person’s characteristics, it would likely not fall under the scope of this statute.

    Key Considerations:
    No Obligation to Rent: Owning property does not obligate you to rent it out. The law applies to active refusals to rent or negotiate when a property is available or being offered.
    Discriminatory Intent: The law focuses on refusals based on protected characteristics. If your refusal to discuss renting is because you’re not interested in renting to anyone, regardless of their status, it would not typically violate this law.
    Context Matters: If you’re approached by someone and explicitly refuse to discuss renting because of their immigration status, that could be seen as a violation. Courts would look at the specific circumstances, including your intent and whether the property was available for rent.
    Practical Advice:
    If you don’t intend to rent your property, you can politely decline to discuss renting without referencing the person’s characteristics. For example, you might say, “I’m not looking to rent out my property at this time.”
    Avoid any statements or actions that could be interpreted as refusing to negotiate based on immigration status or other protected traits.
    If you’re unsure about a specific situation, consulting a legal professional familiar with Vermont housing law would be wise to ensure compliance.
    This interpretation is based on the text of the law as provided and general principles of housing discrimination statutes. For precise legal advice, especially in complex situations, a lawyer should be consulted.

  • AI - Yawn!

    Stop “asking” large language models (ChatGPT, Grok, etc) anything!

    1. They are a waste of resources. It uses up energy and water to ask those questions and get stupid fake results. Use search engines and books.
    2. This site is for original thinking and thought, not for reposting generated craps. There is enough of that garbage on the internet already.
    3. These results appear to seem like real words and information but they are not. There is no knowledge here. It’s a magic trick, not a resource to be trusted.
    4. They often get it wrong.
    5. Grok specifically is manipulated by Elon Musk. In the last week it spit out pro-Hitler and other racist “answers.”

    Finally – it is lazy. Who cares what AI told someone?

    I like it better when I read YOUR words, not Musk’s pet robot.

  • Letter to the Press Office of US Congressperson Becca Balint Requestion Response!

    To: BalintPress@mail.house.gov
    Important Question on Current Issue

    from Cris Ericson
    July 14, 2025
    to BalintPress@mail.house.gov

    Dear US Congressperson Becca Balint,
    in this post, attached below, from the month of May,
    on your website you said you are closely following
    the detainment of 10 construction workers who worked in Vermont.
    Where are they now?
    Please let us know if they have been moved to Alligator Alcatraz,
    and if so, what are you going to do about it?
    Are you willing to rally up hundreds or thousands of Vermonters
    and drive in car pools on down there and protest and post “live” videos of our fellow Vermonters protesting?
    What would be the logistics?
    Should we be afraid of President Trump’s various legal authorities pepper spraying Vermont protesters?
    If you should organize a protest,
    that would be within your legal rights to do so; correct?
    Should Vermont protesters wear face masks,
    and what kind would be good in hot, humid, Florida weather?
    Can your office help organize and book campgrounds ahead of time?
    If so much as one illegal migrant dairy farm worker or any other illegal migrant worker in Vermont is sent to Alligator Alcatraz,
    are you going to step up to the plate and lead the protest?
    We need to know ahead of time, who will lead the protest of Vermonters if we need to do this on behalf of illegal migrant workers
    in Vermont.
    We need to know how much campgrounds closest to Alligator Alcatraz cost, and how many cans of mosquito spray we will need per day depending on how many peoples’ clothes can be sprayed with one can, and how many Vermonters will agree to go in car pools on down to Florida to protest if so much as one Vermont illegal migrant worker gets captured and sent on down there.
    We need to know if you, US Congressperson Becca Balint, will be a true leader. There is clearly a lack of leadership in the United States Congress House of Representatives on the Democrats side, or President Donald Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill Act, which is helping to fund Alligator Alcatraz, would not have been passed.
    We are concerned about the lack of real leadership in the Democrat party.
    I want to know if you will become a real leader on the issue of immigration reform.
    Those that can, do. Everyone else is just flapping their tongues on the roofs of their mouths.
    Cris Ericson
    879 Church Street
    Chester, VT 05143
    (802)875-4038
    July 14, 2025

    https://balint.house.gov/issues/
    https://balint.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=549

    Becca Balint Statement on 10 Construction Workers Detained by ICE in Vermont

    Newport, May 30, 2025
    Tags: Immigration
    Rep. Balint (VT-AL) released the following statement in response to the detention of ten construction workers at an affordable housing construction site in Newport on Thursday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    “Today we learned that ten construction workers were detained by ICE at an affordable housing site Newport, Vermont. My office is closely monitoring the situation to ensure every person in this country is given the due process they deserve. “

  • My original analysis of news reports of attorneys frustrated attempts to contact clients in Alligator Alcatraz

    I am reading that attorneys are extremely frustrated with their attempts to contact their clients
    at Alligator Alcatraz. I have an original legal opinion, as a non-attorney who can read the United States Code, and see that the people responding to the requests of attorneys may possibly be violating federal criminal laws for fraudulent statements or concealing material facts
    under Title 18 United States Code section 1001.

    https://www.gazettextra.com/news/nation_world/a-black-hole-attorneys-say-they-still-can-t-reach-clients-in-alligator-alcatraz/article_5a22006f-c082-5eae-bb40-b837d0078970.html

    Gazette Extra reports:

    “But since the detention center opened to detainees on July 2, attorneys say they have had trouble discerning whether their clients are in the custody of the federal government or the state.” …

    “When Cuprys emailed a legal visit request to the Department of Homeland Security, she was told her client was “under the custody of the State of Florida,” not the federal government.” …

    “An officer there told her that Alligator Alcatraz wasn’t set up yet for hearings and that the state was working on a memorandum of understanding, but it wasn’t “notched out” yet.”

    My original citizen opinion is that when someone is located at Alligator Alcatraz, run jointly and/or simultaneously by the State of Florida and their choice of contractors who are not government employees, and ICE, is that We the People have a right and a need to know if the detainees are in ICE custody, and any emails to attorneys trying to represent these people in custody, which contain any false, fraudulent or misleading information, should be reviewed for violations of federal law for being fraudulent and fraudulently misleading and fraudulently concealing material facts.

    https://uscode.house.gov/

    18 U.S. Code § 1001, known as the “False Statements Statute,” makes it a federal crime to knowingly and willfully make false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements or representations in any matter within the jurisdiction of the federal government. This includes concealing material facts.

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